The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode.

Hey everybody, welcome to the Call to the Call to Mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a podcast for Christians who want to do

their most exceptional work for the glory of God and the good of others. Every week I host a conversation with a Christian who's pursuing world-class

mastery of their craft. We talk about their path to mastery, their daily habits, and how the Gospel of Jesus Christ influences the work

they do in the world. Today we're doing something we've never done before here on the

called mastery. We have our first ever repeat

guest. My friend John Mark Comer, we first had them on the podcast back on

episode 15 almost two years ago.

So why have him back? Why have a repeat guest? Two reasons. Number one, John Marcus easily in my top three favorite authors and frankly I just had a lot of questions

I didn't get to the first time I even even more after this conversation but

two John Mark's got a new book out that has a ton of application for the work you and I do in the world,

and I wanted to make sure you guys heard some of that content.

If you don't know John Mark, he's the author of six books including the mammoth bestseller, The

ruthless elimination of Hurry, which you've heard me talk about a million times

of this podcast. He's also the founding pastor of

Bridgown Church in Portland, Oregon. So John Mark and I sat down recently. We talked

about why he's passing the baton of leadership at his church after 18 years after founding

Bridgetown. We talked about the difference between thinking about scripture and thinking scripture and we talked about how and why we need to read the Gospels as biographies of the life of Christ. You guys are going to love this conversation

with my friend John Mark Comer.

John Mark, welcome back to the Called Mastery.

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