Welcome to the Eric Mataxis show.

I'm the announcer and I've known Eric since he was a big nobody.

In fact, I'm one of the people he stepped on as he climbed the ladder of success.

And now my former friend, Eric Mataxis.

Folks, welcome to the Eric Mataxis show.

Listen, this is fun for me.

I'll just say it up front.

I get to talk to someone I consider a friend because he's very generous in that way.

Dr. John Lennox,

Professor of Mathematics at Oxford,

the author of innumerable books

from which I have quoted in my books.

Dr. Lennox, dear friend,

thank you for being on the program.

That's a great pleasure, as always, to join you.

And I can see that you like me are locked down. You in New York and me in Oxford. There are worse things than being locked down

in one's own apartment because it just means that I don't have to get on the subway. What's so

terrible about that? Well, no, I found it a

huge opportunity to do many of these interviews. And I think we're in the 80s now in terms of

interviews since lockdown for me. Wow. Well, good for you. Terrific. I want to talk to you,

of course, about your brand new book. You have a brand

new book out called 2084 that is doubtless a reference to 1984. And in 2084, you talk about

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