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We do. We have a real lot in store for you today including an interview next hour with a man has been on our show a number of times my

michael rutherford from the criminal justice legal foundation always been bad news when he comes

on it is it's quite a proposed bill in Sacramento, but it proves something that I have

said for years on the John and Ken show. Eventually, there will not be life in prison without parole.

It will not exist. They'll always be a way out even for the worst of the killers. And here it comes.

We have a bill that may just do that. Yes. Not only no more

death penalty, no more life without parole, everybody gets out. And this is the incremental

approach that we've talked about many times. And over the last 13 years now, every year,

another bill and another bill and another bill bill and every one of them dump more

prisoners out earlier and earlier or they don't prosecute them to begin with. Yep. And they fake

you out. They say things like, well, you know, we're going to put a hold on the death penalty.

That's archaic. We're done with that. But don't worry. Murderers will get life without parole.

They'll never get out of prison. And I knew they were lying. And I knew, as John said, incrementally,

they would chip away at that. And now we've got a bill that wants to do just that. And even worse,

we're talking about 20 years should be enough for a murderer. That's. That's what they're thinking. 20 years?

Wow.

I heard, I think Gascon, he either said 15 or 20 years.

He said the same thing, George Gascoe in the other county, DA, that that's enough time.

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