John Greenewald: Mojave UAPs, FOIA, and What the Government Won't Release

Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

Curt Jaimungal

Physics, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science

4.6 • 606 Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2023

⏱️ 238 minutes

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John Greenewald, who runs the world’s largest FOIA archive on UFOs, discusses government cover‑ups, the limits of current UAP investigations and the challenges of obtaining and preserving classified documents. The conversation also explores the history of the Black Vault, recent UFO incidents, and the broader cultural debate around ufology.0:00 Introduction4:51 What UFOs are and are NOT11:41 Consciousness and the phenomenon16:38 The ant hill analogy doesn’t work24:14 How much does the government know?29:30 Synopsis so‑far36:21 Untouchable areas of the government44:44 Disputatious tenor in ufology51:10 Lue Elizondo vs AAWSAP/AATIP1:07:05 Chinese balloons and UAPs1:14:07 Sean Kirkpatrick testimony (video)1:19:26 Stanton Friedman and Majestic 121:29:39 Destroyed documents and FOIA best practices1:46:49 The Big Phone Home1:55:00 Tweets can be FOIA requested2:03:30 Inimicality in ufology2:29:59 Jeremy Corbell, Mick West, and the Triangle2:40:04 John’s thoughts on Jacques Vallée2:43:53 Announcement and behind‑the‑scenes development3:03:48 Skinwalker, the show, and UFOs3:09:17 Conspectus3:12:59 Corbell’s Mojave Triangle3:32:04 DoD contradictions and redactions (AOIMSG)3:43:15 Travis Taylor and bizarre gov’t connectionsSPONSORS:- SincX: https://sincxpress.com- Curiosity Stream: use promo code THEORIES - https://curiositystream.com/THEORIES- Henson Shaving: use code EVERYTHING - https://hensonshaving.com/EVERYTHINGRESOURCES:- YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzXPsWQqoYw- John's The Black Vault: https://theblackvault.com- Daniel Van Zant's AI: https://cpod.ai- The Black TOE Vault (LLM with FOIA docs): https://theblacktoevault.com- John's "Inside The Black Vault" [audiobook]: https://amzn.to/43BVIDP- John's "Secrets from the Black Vault" [hard copy]: https://amzn.to/43nkkQj- Every Theories of Everything UFO podcast: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ7ikzmc6zlMFdn_J-PlLOgsCwBcZPWof- TOE Merch: https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerch- Curt's "Learn All Undergraduate Theoretical Physics in Under 2h" Lesson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8kyvdPP8os&t=0s- New TOE Website (early access to episodes): https://theoriesofeverything.org/- Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal- Crypto: https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE- PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE- Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt- Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs- iTunes: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802- Pandora: https://pdora.co/33b9lfP- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e- Subreddit r/TheoriesOfEverything: https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal features long-form, technically detailed interviews with leading researchers in physics, mathematics, consciousness, and philosophy, exploring topics at the level of active research. For academics, graduate students, and anyone seeking depth beyond popular science. SPONSOR: I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE FOLLOW: Substack | Spotify | YouTube | Twitter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	There's always a smoke screen or something that makes you look the opposite direction.
0:04.4	And that is the absolute best way to summarize government secrecy and cover up.
0:09.7	And it's something that has gone on well over a half a century, not only with UAP and UFOs,
0:14.9	but pretty much with any secret that they don't want you to give.
0:18.8	This UAP topic is an intriguing one, to say the least.
0:22.3	Views on them range from something mundane and terrain like, hey, it's just atmospheric effects,
0:26.1	it's just lens flares, to its mass psychosis, to there's something metaphysical here, some
0:30.4	consciousness related connection to other beings, to its government secrecy's and cover-ups.
0:35.2	We're going to explore each of these in today's episode, and in particular, that last
0:39.7	point, with John Greenwald Jr.
0:42.0	Now, John's a seasoned researcher in this phenomenon, has developed this reputation for focusing
0:46.9	primarily on the hard facts.
0:48.9	That is, what can he get his hands on?
1:00.6	Yeah. he get his hands on? Welcome to Theories of Everything with myself, Kurt Jaemungle.
1:04.2	My background is in mathematical physics, and so this podcast, Theories of Everything,
1:08.0	is dedicated to exploring toes, predominantly from a theoretical
1:11.5	physics perspective, but I'm also open to the more philosophical toes, as well as the larger
1:16.1	questions that seem to poke at us all, such as where are we from, are we alone in the universe,
1:21.8	and what constitutes life? This is Season 3 of the Toe podcast. Each episode will be more in-depth,
1:27.3	have more research, more energy placed into it than any of the other episodes on Toll.
1:31.3	In this episode with John Greenwald in particular, there will be expository material to aid the understanding of some of the concepts.
1:38.3	And there will be a special announcement about midway through.
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