From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

Welcome to The Treatment. I'm Elvis Mitchell. My guests are filmmakers who I think have a particular distinction in the way their work.

You look at the films they've done as writers, such as horrible bosses, or their great directing work on the vacation reboot, or even on Cloudy with a chance of meatballs, too, or their first film, really, the film I think really works them as filmmakers, a new film, is Game Nights.

They tend to make comedies about jealousy. Am I wrong, fellas? No, I think really works them as filmmakers, a new film, is Game Nights. They tend to make comedies about jealousy.

Am I wrong, fellas?

No, I think that's an ongoing theme.

I think we're very jealous people, generally.

We're going to film interviews to my guest do today, John Fences Daily, and Jonathan Goldstein.

But that really is, at some point, jealousy just sort of like foams up and almost overtakes your protagonist, doesn't it?

Well, I think it's a classic driver of comedy.

If somebody feels inadequate, they are trying very hard to prove themselves to the world or the people in their lives,

and they often fall on their faces.

And I think that's true of a lot of our characters.

Yeah, I think there's something inherently funny in someone's desperation and the more

desperate they become over the course of the film, the greater lengths they're willing to take

to make things right for themselves and that often results in, you know, disaster.

It's also, that gives us a way to really ground comedy and reality,

because what you guys do is kind of broad,

but there are real physical stakes in these pieces, aren't there?

Yeah, I mean, it's always important for us,

because to us, I think, the best comedy lives in our world,

at least to a certain extent, there are touch points

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