John "Curley" Montana and the Cleveland Mob
Gangland Wire
Gary Jenkins
4.6 • 647 Ratings
🗓️ 28 October 2024
⏱️ 68 minutes
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Summary
Fred tells the famous story about the stolen informant list and how it forced Jimmy the Weasel Fratianno in as a cooperating witness.
Fred recounts the chilling details of the John Curly Montana case and the kidnapping and murder of businessman Henry Podborny, illustrating the complexities of criminal conspiracies and the challenges of law enforcement. The episode also highlights the importance of informants, the rigorous investigative work required, and the collaboration among law enforcement in tackling organized crime, offering listeners a fascinating glimpse into federal investigations.
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| 0:00.0 | Well, hey, welcome all you wiretappers out there. It's good to be back here in the studio, Gangland Wire. I am retired Kansas City Police Intelligence Unit, Detective Gary Jenkins. I even got promoted to Sergeant before I left and went back to the intelligence unit for a period of time. Now I've turned podcasters, y'all know. And I have one of my many great expert, former FBI agents, you know, |
| 0:24.3 | we've had a lot of them on here today. It's Fred Grosley. Fred, welcome. Thank you very much, |
| 0:31.7 | Gary. Now, Fred, did I get your last name pronounced right? It's Grassley. |
| 0:38.9 | But anything close to that. |
| 0:42.4 | Call me anything but late for dinner, right? |
| 0:45.2 | I'm notorious for but what your name. |
| 0:47.4 | So as these guys know, |
| 0:50.3 | I am too. |
| 0:51.6 | Anyhow, Fred, Fred and I had a meeting not too long ago for lunch, and he had gotten hold of me. |
| 0:57.4 | He's retired out of the Cleveland office or Northwest Indiana office. |
| 1:02.4 | I can't remember which office you retire out of. |
| 1:04.3 | Northwest Indiana. |
| 1:05.4 | Northwest Indiana. |
| 1:06.5 | And he moved to Kansas City, retired to Kansas City as a company. |
| 1:09.9 | So I'm going to let Fred tell you a little bit about his background and his career in the FBI and a little bit of |
| 1:16.4 | post-FBI because I think that's got to be interesting. So Fred, tell us about yourself. |
| 1:21.2 | Sure. I went to Indiana University and went to Indiana University and got a degree in accounting specifically |
| 1:30.1 | to qualify myself to be an FBI agent. That was something I wanted to do ever since I was a small |
| 1:36.3 | child. I graduated in 1973, went into public accounting for a couple of years, passed the CPA exam, |
| 1:43.5 | and applied with the Bureau and got in |
| 1:46.9 | pretty quickly in August of 1975 and was a special agent for 30 years during that point in time. |
| 1:54.6 | I spent my first 10 year. For you guys that don't know, that was the route, one of the, the three routes into the FBI back in those days. |
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