Yeah, my career picked me. I didn't pick it. I just did it. Nine years old is nine years old. Yeah, no. He sees us and he sees two little kids and, you know, just, hmm. So he's handing those songs like, don't put your feet in the lemon age or go, we just left Johnny Nash playing some serious stuff and now we're we're here. I love my siin. He's cat because she's not very fat with a toy piano. I can't think of any other

In the in the 70 80 years of rock history. I think your family stands alone in this dynamic

I can't think of anything that even comes close

They were telling us you're gonna be living in California. We're going no way I we went from

From nothing From zero to a And I can't jump ahead. I can do it all over. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much for being here, John. I'm so excited. So let me explain to you how this whole thing came to me because you you did ask when we'd never met before today.

So I saw you playing with the Beach Boys a few years back.

My wife, I love the Beach Boys, but my wife,

who's a lot younger than I,

and wanted to go see the Beach Boys play.

And we lived close to Ravinia outside of Chicago.

And so you were playing with the Beach Boys then.

And I thought who's the handsome young drummer, obviously not part of the original band, that would be you. And Swagger and some Charmin and a full head of hair. And as you do these days, I started, I was playing drums for the band. And I saw your name and I thought, from the councils, like family band. And so I found myself after that gig thinking, I really should know more about this band. I love 60s music. I consider myself a bit of a snobby, aficionado and I thought, you know, I really don't know much about your family band. Like I know the basics, but I'm a guy likes to think I know the depth of things.

Like who signed who and who played on what records.

I want to, I want to those guys, I had to that one.

And I thought, wow, it's really weird because I do like the band. Why have I never kind of done the deep dive in the band? So then I jumped into the catalog for the first time I thought, wow, there's a lot of talent in this,

because you get the thing where it's like,

well, there's a couple hits.

And it's like, no, there's a lot of depth of talent there.

And then the whole story of's like, well, there's a couple hits and it's like, no, there's a lot of depth of talent there.

And then the whole story of the band, obviously the TV show that followed and all this, the mythological stuff, but the nuts and bolts I'm very interested in. And then, you know, watching you plan at Sullivan when you're 12 years old or something. I mean, that's a pretty rare thing. That was fun. You know, I'm saying this is a pretty rare thing.

You know, very few people touch the zeitgeist

in the way that your family did. And then obviously the family dynamics, I think, make it even more fascinating because as we know through rock history, when you put family and music together, it can yield incredible results. But oftentimes there's like these other kind of sparks because there are more has more to do with the family relationships than so I don't know if that presages what you were after, but that's why we're here So I'm a fan to start with so Much I've done I've done the deep dive so Here's a place to start Playing in a band with six siblings obviously you, one of the six and your mother, that's pretty unique setup. Is that anything you could have envisioned? Or, you're just a kid and you're kind of in a circumstance. Is that a fair way? Yeah, my career picked me. I didn't pick it. I just did it. I mean, I was four when I first heard my brother singing in Ohio. We lived in Canton, Ohio. And my brother Bill is the oldest one. So he's everybody thinks my mom or my dad started singing. This is my brother Bill. Yeah. I refer to him as our Brian Wilson of the family. And he's the, and if you ever did a deep dive on Bill couch, actually you you would see, oh, I have. Oh, okay, because he was like, he's amazing. He's super talented in a unique way that very few people are. He's like the real deal Elvis, you know, and he just means it every time. But yeah, it picked me so, we always sang around the table, you know, folk songs, Boyle, that cabbage down boy and time hanged down your head, Tom Dooley, Stu Ball was a racehorse and... Are we singing Harmony that early? Or is it just a big group? Yeah, naturally, just everybody singing the living room. I think the first song I ever sang was my hillbilly baby. Okay. And, uh, twisting up my shorts, because my uncle Bob had a tape recorder. I was probably five then I wasn't in school yet and singing running bear. Like, did Johnny Cash do running bear or something? No, it was Bobby. I can't remember. Right. I'm not an officiate, if I'm not to want anything. I just know the song's growing up. And just stuff like that. Oh, it was a Bobby Bear? Bobby Bear, thank you. Yeah. Running Bear, little wet. Right. Yeah, that was cool. And then, I don't know, it just evolved and we kept doing that. And I remember, I just remember the Beatles coming on at Sullivan. Well, before that, I mean, I lived in a house of music. And it's always my two brothers, and they tried to be in other bands, Bill and Bob. It started with Bill and Bob. And they were seven playing, you know, tea parties for my mom's whatever it was. I mean, these are the stories I was told. I was too young to remember that. But, um, so quiet in here. It's just the son of your own mind working. Yeah, thank God I don't have tonight as it all. So I'm really happy about that. And I, you know, I'm the youngest of six boys, so I get the music dripping down to me, you know. Whatever they're listening to, this is what I'm listening to. And before the Beatles, it was the Beach Boys, because I remember all those albums on the floor. But I mean like lightning everything happened so fast the shadows last forever

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