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rational security, chatter, law fair no bull, and the aftermath.

So I think now, just like the Cold War, was not a traditional conflict.

But was something that I think rightly was called a war that required dedicated will

that was in a state of essentially low-intensity conflict and required a strategy to win.

We are similarly now in an era of Cold War.

There are multiple countries committing low-intensity conflict operations against the United States,

North Korea, Russia, Iran, and China.

They have different tactics and strategies, but one of the reasons I wrote the book is

I realized when I talked to boards of directors, to CEOs, to the general public right now,

that much of what they think is science fiction and the possible threats that may come in the future

have already happened, but those stories have not been told.

I'm Matthew Khan, and this is the LawFair podcast November 24, 2018.

John Karlin served as the assistant attorney general for the National Security Division

of the Justice Department from April 2014 to October 2016.

In his new book with Garrett Graff, called Dawn of the Cold War, Karlin explains the cyber conflict

of the US faces and how the government fights back.

Benjamin Witt has sat down with Karlin last week to talk about the book.

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