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The Lawfare Podcast

John Brennan Remains Undaunted

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🗓️ 6 October 2020

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Starting in January 2017, John Brennan became one of President Trump's most blunt critics among former national security professionals. In the years since, he has been working on writing a book, now available, called "Undaunted: My Fight Against America's Enemies at Home and Abroad." David Priess sat down with John to talk about the book and his career. They talked about what brought him to the CIA, his career as a CIA officer and manager, his work overseas at the CIA, his time at the White House as the Deputy Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism for President Obama in his first term, and his time as CIA director in President Obama's second term. They covered some controversies, including enhanced interrogation, the reorganization of the CIA in the so-called "modernization effort," Russian interference in the 2016 election, and of course, his outspoken criticisms of the president ever since.

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The storm clouds of Russian interference, if you will, started to form in my mind

1:24.2

in the spring, early summer of 2016. We knew that the Russians would repeat what they've done

1:32.6

in previous years as far as going forward some propaganda.

1:36.4

But when we started to get indications, which was a combination of intelligence, as well as

1:44.3

just piecing together some of the dots that were available publicly as well as available

1:50.9

classified holdings, it became apparent to me that this was an effort that was

1:58.3

mostly unprecedented and scale scoped intensively.

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I'm David Pries and this is the Law Fair Podcast, October 6th, 2020.

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Starting in January 2017, John Brennan became one of the president's most blunt critics

2:15.2

among former national security professionals. In the years since he has been working on writing a book,

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