John Bevere Has a DEEP Convo w/ Lecrae On Fallen Pastors, End Times, and Political Idols
The Deep End With Lecrae
Lecrae
4.8 • 602 Ratings
🗓️ 5 June 2025
⏱️ 66 minutes
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Summary
Lecrae welcomes bestselling author and speaker,John Bevere to The Deep End Podcast, sharing practical, scripture-based insights on overcoming offense, cultivating humility, and living with eternal perspective.
In this episode, John Bevere (author of The Bait of Satan, Driven by Eternity, and The Holy Spirit) unpacks how unforgiveness builds strongholds, why true humility guards against pride, and how daily recalibration through prayer and Bible study transforms your walk with Christ.
Discover actionable steps to break free from bitterness, embrace your calling as an "ordinary" believer, and prioritize spiritual maturity over performance. John also discusses the importance of caring for your body as God's temple and what modern Christians can learn from persecuted believers worldwide.
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| 0:00.0 | Right now, we're seeing a lot of spiritual leaders fall away. |
| 0:03.6 | The problem is you got performers and you got people who serve. So people ask me, they say, do you get nervous before you preach to 20,000 people? I said, no. If I'm performing, I'm going to be nervous. If I'm serving, I'm not going to be nervous. You want to know my number one goal in ministry? Number one, there's nothing more important in this goal. |
| 0:21.0 | I'm curious, like, there's no scandal, there's no chaos. |
| 0:24.8 | You're quoting scripture like you live and breathe it. |
| 0:27.3 | Why are you not leading a church? |
| 0:29.9 | That's not fair. |
| 0:31.1 | Politics has divided human beings in America, specifically Christians. |
| 0:35.9 | I don't want to talk about economy. |
| 0:37.2 | I don't want to talk about the border, but don't want to talk about economy. I don't want to talk about the border, |
| 0:40.0 | but I do want to talk about |
| 0:41.3 | I thought about asking this, and I wasn't going to. |
| 0:45.5 | Uh-oh. |
| 0:46.1 | I don't yet have a position on this. |
| 0:48.7 | On a recent podcast about the end times, |
| 0:51.3 | uh-oh, here we go. |
| 0:52.3 | You gave your perspective, |
| 0:53.9 | so I don't know if you would mind sharing. |
| 0:56.3 | Wow, that's a big one. |
| 1:02.4 | This is the Deep End with La Cui. |
| 1:08.3 | This is cool because I, you know, get to sit with amazing people all the time um but rarely do i sit |
| 1:18.5 | with people who i have not heard myself but i've heard from them or about them from so many people. And I feel like, |
| 1:32.3 | you know, it's kind of like when the iPhone first came out, if anybody can remember that era, |
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