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Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

John 6:29: Is Faith a Work?

Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Leighton Flowers

Baptist, Atonement, Reformed, Bible, Religion & Spirituality, Calvinism, Biblical, Arminianism, Calvin, Christianity, Christian

4.8826 Ratings

🗓️ 21 September 2021

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Flowers continues a discussion from an earlier episode in which a Calvinist friend poses the argument that faith must be a "work" due to John 6:29... Let's Discuss!

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0:00.0

I'm Hello and welcome back to Sochiology 101.

0:29.5

You may be thinking to yourself, why am the world late and are you doing another broadcast today?

0:32.8

You already did one earlier today.

0:34.1

Well, I wanted to respond specifically to a comment that was brought up by Brenton

0:39.0

Stanfield, one of our local Calvinist buddies, who often posts in the side chat while we're recording.

0:44.6

And he asked about John chapter 6, verse 29, because I was making the point, using John Piper's own

0:49.6

article from the 1970s, mind you, that faith is not a work. It's certainly not a meritorious work of the law by which we earn or merit salvation,

0:57.4

which I think, hopefully most Calvinists would agree with, including Brenton,

1:00.7

Brenton.

1:01.2

But what he was trying to say is, well, John 629 calls faith a work.

1:05.4

Therefore, we should call it a work, which would ultimately mean that we're saved by grace through a work. Now, that work may be effectually caused by God on Calvinism, but it's still a work, and

1:15.2

who would say that we're saved by grace through a work?

1:18.3

Even Calvinists would want to, I would think, avoid that kind of vernacular, which is why I think

1:24.0

that he's misunderstood what Jesus was saying in John chapter 6, verse 29 29 and I wanted to go over that because I really didn't take the time

1:31.6

to go over it in the broadcast thoroughly and so I wanted to go over that a little

1:36.1

bit today just because I was I was pondering it throughout my day. This is the iron

1:38.9

sharpening iron that I think friends can do for each other. When we asked each other

1:43.4

questions, sometimes we ponder those

1:44.7

questions for a while and we begin to think, okay, well, 629, John 629 does seem to call faith of work.

1:51.2

Maybe he has a point here. And so I wanted to be fair to him and look at the text if we could

1:56.4

together. So let's look at it. Here's John chapter 6, beginning of verse 28 there. It says,

2:01.0

they ask him, what must we do to do the works God requires? In other words, what works do we do to get

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