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Gangland Wire

Joey Doves Aiuppa and the Big Fish

Gangland Wire

Gary Jenkins: Mafia Detective

True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture, History

4.6623 Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2020

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Joey Doves Aiuppa and the Muskie Mobsters and fishermen are notorious liars. Something about the nature of both lives lends itself to exaggeration. This is an example of where the two worlds meet. In 1949 angler Louis Spray reportedly caught the largest Muskie ever at the Chippewa Flowage in Wisconsin. The fish was 69 lbs, 11 oz, and there is a picture of Louis in a red flannel, corduroy field hat, and the fish is as long as he is tall. There have been several claims through the years of other fish, 1992, Art Lawton’s record fish, originally thought to be 69 lbs, 15 ozz, and 64 ½ inches long was found to have been falsely reported. Throughout the years, many people have accused Louis of fishing illegally or stuffing ground-up fish parts into dead muskie mouths to increase weight. Affidavits and accusations abound. Perhaps the strangest story about Louis Spray’s muskie record comes from Chicago, from a mobster who would one day be known for his exaggerations where animals were concerned.  Other sources I found describe Spray as a Prohibition Era rum runner, familiar with Chicago gangsters throughout the Wisconsin area. The affidavits I found, are all full of stories of Spray buying record fish…he holds records from 1939-1949. When he wasn’t fishing or drinking, he was lying, and he carried a gun everywhere he went.   Joey “Doves” Aiuppa was a fisherman He was known to editors of several fishing publications. He liked fishing for crappy, but more than anything, Aiuppa liked fishing for muskie. Aiuppa was fishing with Spence Petros of Fishing Facts magazine one day and asked if Petros was familiar with Louis Spray. Petros was familiar with Aiuppa, and Spray—he knew about the World Record Muskie. Aiuppa told Petros while fishing that he actually caught the record muskie and sold it to Spray for $50. Petros questioned him. He was fishing beneath the Winter Dam, where the Chippewa Flowage begins. Petros knew that was a restricted area. “That’s why I was fishing at night,” Aiuppa replied. Petros asked why Aiuppa didn’t just turn in the fish himself. He replied, “Do you know what ‘on the lam’ means?” Joey Doves Aiuppa or Louis Spray? So here we have two men, one whom multiple sources claim is a liar, who holds a record, and another who is named for his prodigious hunting abilities, who only ever told one person about his world record catch. I don’t know about you, but my money is on Doves. Show Notes by Camillus Robinson  Support the Podcast Hit me up on Venmo for a cup of coffee or a shot and a beer @ganglandwire To go to the store or make a donation Click Here.   To rent Brothers against Brothers, the documentary, click here.  To rent Gangland Wire, the documentary, click here To subscribe on iTunes click here, please give me a review and help others find the podcast

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0:00.0

You are listening to Gangland Wire, hosted by former Kansas City Police Intelligence Unit Detective, Gary Jenkins.

0:19.6

Welcome all you wiretappers out there, back here in the Gangland Wire Studio with our

0:24.8

Genio co-host Camulus Robinson calling down on Skype from Munster, Indiana. Hi Cam, Cam, how you doing?

0:34.2

Gary, how you doing? Glad to be here.

0:35.7

Well, you know, it's a little bit different weather than what we had last winter. That's, you got that right. I prefer this.

0:43.5

I called you from Texas. I remember when I called you from Texas that was about 60 down there. It was

0:49.3

like snowing 30 or something up there. Awful up here.

0:55.3

Really?

1:01.1

So, um, folks, Cam has come up with a really interesting story.

1:03.0

He's been doing some research again for me.

1:06.7

And it is, uh, about Iupa and the musky.

1:09.1

And then the musky means the musky fish. You know, I think you guys all know, especially you Chicago guys.

1:12.8

This is for you Chicago guys, Ben Ellickson and Mike Bernard, all you guys up there in Chicago.

1:19.6

I'm sorry, I can't remember other names.

1:22.1

I know I've been contacted by people from Chicago.

1:26.0

But, you know, Aupa was a big fisherman and a hunter.

1:30.3

There's all kinds of pictures out there.

1:32.3

I see him posted on the Chicago outfit, Facebook pages all the time of

1:37.3

Iupa holding guns and with other mobsters holding guns and holding animals that he's killed.

1:44.7

And, of course, you know, the most famous story of all is that he shot 500 doves

1:51.5

and brought him back from down here in southeast.

1:54.0

Kansas had to come up through Kansas City, I guess, to do that pretty much.

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