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Typology

Joel Miller on the Inner World of the Enneagram Five and the Power of Ideas

Typology

Ian Morgan Cron

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4.63.2K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

In this week's episode of Typology, I sit down with my dear friend and fellow book lover Joel Miller—an Enneagram Five through and through, and author of The Idea Machine: How Books Built Our World and Shape Our Future.

Joel embodies the mind of a Five: curious, analytical, fiercely independent, and endlessly fascinated with ideas. But as we explore in our conversation, that intellectual brilliance can also become a refuge—a way to manage anxiety, avoid dependence, and retreat from life itself. Together, we unpack what it means for Fives to move from "information to intimacy," from hoarding ideas to sharing their hearts.

We talk about why books are "technologies of connection," how Joel's marriage to a Four helps pull him out of his head and into his heart, and why he believes faith is meant to be experienced, not simply understood.

If you've ever wondered how to balance thinking and feeling, solitude and connection, this episode will resonate deeply.

 

About Joel:

Joel J. Miller is a former publishing executive with a twenty-year career in writing and editorial. Today he serves as chief content officer of Full Focus (FullFocus.co) and publishes Miller's Book Review (MillersBookReview.com), a popular Substack celebrating literary culture.

He is the author of several books, including The Idea Machine: How Books Built Our World and Shape Our Future (forthcoming, November 2025). His writing has appeared in Reason, the Washington Post, American Spectator, and National Review. He lives outside Nashville, Tennessee, with his wife, kids, dogs, and more books than space.

Available now for pre-order: The Idea Machine: How Books Built Our World and Shape Our Future 

 

Follow Typology Podcast on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or your favorite podcast player to learn more about the Enneagram and personal growth. 
 

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey folks and welcome back to Typology, the show on which we explore the mystery of the human personality and the great human adventure all through the lens of the Enneagram.

0:14.0

My name is Anthony Skinner, your producer and co-host. So happy to have you here today, folks.

0:20.0

We've got something that we rarely get an

0:22.9

opportunity to get a good friend and eneagram five it's hard for us to find anygram fives

0:30.1

that are willing to come onto the show maybe would be the phrase to use but today we have one

0:36.9

for you folks and it's a good one. This is

0:39.1

such a good interview. Interesting on so many levels. Talking about Joel Miller, former publishing

0:44.5

exec, turn writer, and chief content officer at full focus. With over a 20-year career, Joel's helped

0:52.1

shape countless voices and ideas in the publishing world.

0:55.4

He now runs Miller's Book Review on Substack.

0:58.0

Make sure you check that out.

0:59.4

Where he celebrates literary culture and the power of books to shape the way we see the world.

1:04.2

This is also the topic of his brand new book, which drops in November of 2025.

1:13.0

So it's just coming up, the idea machine,

1:19.1

how books built our world and shape our future. Joel's writings have appeared in Reason,

1:25.9

Washington Post, American Spectator National Review, on and on and on. Anyway, he's a real treasure.

1:32.4

Great discussion around being in Enegram 5 and on. Anyway, he's a real treasure. Great discussion around being an Enneagram 5 and also great discussion on books, the power of books, and on his brand new book again that releases in

1:39.1

November. So so glad you're here. You're going to love this interview. You're going to love

1:43.0

Joel. That's it for me, Anthony Skinner.

1:45.3

And now, without any further ado, here is the host with the most in crime.

1:54.6

Hey, Typology, friends.

2:00.1

Welcome back to this amazing conversation that we've been having for almost 10 years now with countless people about their enneagram types, how they see and experience the world, and how they're growing in their self-understanding and toward becoming the highest expression of

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