we started gathering on couches, making soup and talking about God. And I, I watched it happen week to

week. I watched the walls come down, the relief in people's lives, the way that food and the

table just made, we had all this common ground. We laugh, we cried, we visit, we talk about what

we're watching on TV. And then we moved to spiritual things.

And that little one, two, three dance of biblical hospitality, opening our homes, inviting people in, serving something good, and then moving to spiritual things, that little combo just swept me off my feet.

I loved that setting of ministry.

I don't even know if we're actually recording.

We'll just say that.

Well, we're going to pray to God Almighty that we are.

Yes, we are.

Because, listen, when Amy and I get together, who knows, this is what I consider fun,

is talking to a friend on Joe today Amy

Hanon, speaker store owner, author of new book Gather and Give. You might know her as

Luna May. She is my guest today. Hello Amy. Are we actually talking? Well, we are

for the moment. It's all smoking. You think you're hearing Amy and I.

The reason why I'm saying all this is because Amy and I have been trying for a good

18 minutes to get on here to talk to you.

So listen,

this is the woes of me doing video interviews,

which,

you know,

now the people demand actually, Amy. You know, I the people demand, actually, Amy.

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