I love the scripture of 1 Corinthians 612 where it says, I have the right to do anything,

but not everything is beneficial.

Yes, yes.

And it's like, I have the right to do anything, he goes on to say,

but I will not be mastered by anything.

And the thing is, if we could start out drinking an addictive substance,

and if the right circumstances are there,

whether it's genetics, undelt with trauma, mental health issues, things like that, we roll

out the red carpet for abusing it, well, using it more than dependency than addiction.

And when addiction takes over, you can't stop on your own.

Okay, Irene, I know you already have people in this role in your life, but I've decided that we're going to be best

friends. So I need you to know that. I hope that's okay with you. I'm not trying to be

pushy here. But I know, I'm thinking, Andy Andrew, don't kill me right now. I know she's already

claimed that space. Oh my gosh. Well, she's best friends with me.

So, you know, what's one more person? Right. Just add me. Just add me in is all I'm saying.

Yeah. While talking with Irene Rollins today, pastor, coach, wife, mom, author of Reframe Your

Shame, Experience Freedom from What Holds You Back.

I've been really counting the days until I got to talk to you, Irene, because what we're

going to talk about today is so important, and I think not talked about enough. But before we get

to that, I mentioned that you're a mom. You have older-ish kids. I mean, maybe even like nearly grown. I don't know exactly the ages. But I was thinking about the fact that we've got a lot of moms listening who just need a word. They just need a word today. They need a word of encouragement.

We've got moms that have sent kids off to college.

We've got moms who feel like they're failing.

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