Hi, and welcome to Jesus Over Everything, a five-day-a-week variety show that mixes encouragement,

the Bible, practical how-toes, and fantastic guests for the listener on the go. I'm Lisa Whittle,

and I welcome you to just five minutes with me, which I trust and pray will be five minutes well spent.

I know you are blessed by Jonathan Pitt's guest-hosted show yesterday, as was I, and I was so

honored to get to have a conversation with him

you'll hear today. We talk about his wife, winner, going to heaven last year, what he would say to

someone who was having a hard time accepting something they wish for something different, and his

best counsel on creating a powerful partnership in your marriage. Really good stuff. Turns out,

he unpacked some things in this interview. He's

never unpacked before. What a great human. Jonathan is and winter was. It's of no surprise to me

that she married this great man. Listen in to my conversation with Jonathan Pitts now.

Jonathan, I'm really honored to have you on here.

That's good to be with you.

I want to say first that I never met your late wife winner in person, which is highly unfortunate for me.

But we did have some brief personal interaction. And even in that, I could sense a very, very special human.

Yeah, she was a special girl, one of a kind, Winter, Danielle Pitts. Oh, I've heard that. So many of my

friends did know her on some level. And from the outpouring of her passing, you could tell she was

truly dear. Were you

overwhelmed by the love you and the girls received when she died? Yeah, I mean, it's been,

it's been absolutely bonkers. Like when I think about, like, if I look back over the last eight

months and I see how God's met us through his people, it's kind of mind-boggling, and I wouldn't believe it if I would have been

looking towards the future and somebody were telling me that was going to happen in terms of

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