Hi, and welcome to Jesus Over Everything, a five-day-a-week variety show that mixes encouragement,

the Bible, practical how-toes, and fantastic guests for the listener on the go. I'm Lisa Whittle,

and I welcome you to just five minutes with me, which I trust and pray will be five minutes well-spent.

I love this woman who is guest hosting today. Susie Larson is a familiar voice to many of

you because for years she hosted the wildly popular Live the Promise radio show where she interviewed

me several times through the years. That's where we met and then eventually in person. Now Susie hosts

another wildly popular show this time on Facebook and we'll link that

in our show notes so you can find her there. But this tiny woman is a giant in the faith. I truly

mean it. She is spiritually tough even though her body has gone through illness and she is someone

I personally consider a mentor from afar. Author multiple books wife mom grandmother and lesser

known fact one of my favorite tweeters out there yep it's true susie welcome to the

show and thank you for bringing your wisdom here several years ago I interviewed Stephen Arterburn on my radio show, and he said something that

has not left me. He said, Zuzzi, one of the great epidemics of the church today is unresolved

grief, that we've all walked through hurts, disappointments, and losses, and we've not slowed down

long enough to heal from them. Well, I not only pondered that

thought, I started to ask other professionals, doctors, and counselors, is this true? And 100% they said

absolutely yes. And what I learned, as I say in the book, is what happens in our soul, happens in

ourselves, that when we have losses and hurts and we stuff them down and we numb out, our body absorbs them,

our body holds on to them, and they push out into our physiology.

In fact, I had a counselor friend who said she and her colleagues are seeing women come in mass to

their office with all these crazy physical symptoms, only to spend some time sorting through

losses and hurts and disappointments,

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