We're trying to strengthen the way we view the world and take in as much information as we can

and see that information for what it truly is, not what we want it to be.

Well, here we are on the Sunday special with Joe Rogan.

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So thanks so much for stopping. I don't think I did that.

I think Adam Carolla did it. Well, I'll have to have you guys fight it out. I came in after. I love Adam, too, so I'll have to, I'll have to, but there's no question that right now you're dominant in the space. And it's an amazing thing because you're really gifted guy.

I mean, you can sit there for three hours with somebody and talk about the most random topic

and make it really interesting.

So I need the backstory. So all of my listeners and people who are fans of mine might not know

your work as well, might not know kind of your story. So how did you get to be doing what you're

doing right now? Like give us the whole history. Well, with the podcasting, it just started out doing a video thing with just Ustream.

We're just doing Q&A, like people would tweak questions, we'd answer questions, just for fun.

I did it once.

And I actually did it a couple of times backstage in between shows years before that. There was a thing called Justin TV, which I'm not sure what that is now, became a new company, but we would just show backstage. We'd have like a webcam going and would just play around and talk to people and have fun. And then we did the one Q&A and I said, all right, I'm going to do it again next week. We'll try to do it regularly. So I did it again the next Monday. And then it became a weekly thing. Then we started uploading it to iTunes. And then we started getting guests. And then I said, okay, I got to get out of my house. All these weirdos were coming over my house. I'm like, I'll just get a studio somewhere.

So I got a studio.

And then after the studio, I'm like, well, the studio is kind of little.

Let's get a bigger studio.

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