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The Ben Shapiro Show

Ep. 552 - The Tide Goes Out On The Blue Wave

The Ben Shapiro Show

The Daily Wire

News, News Commentary

4.4152.4K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2018

⏱️ 58 minutes

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The Supreme Court rules in favor of religious bakers, Democrats struggle for the House

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majority, and Bernie Sanders makes the stupidest statements about Disney ever.

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I'm Ben Shapiro. This is the Ben Shapiro show.

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So much news I couldn't even mention it all in the tease before the show. Bill Clinton also

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was on TV a lot. And we all remember

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now why Donald Trump is president with Bill Clinton on TV talking about where he stores his cigars. We have a lot to get to today. Before we get to any of that, I have a few announcements. So, first of all, we've decided to honor Father's Day this year with a special live stream. So on Tuesday, June 12th at 7 p.m. Eastern, Daily Wire, God King Jeremy Boring is going to host a roundtable

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discussion with me and Andrew Claven and Michael Knowles as well. And we are going to sit around and chat about all of the things. We'll discuss what fatherhood means and why fathers matter and how fatherhood will stand up against an increasingly anti-male culture. And subscribers will be able to write in live questions for us to answer on the air. So you should subscribe now so you can write those live questions and then we'll care about what you have to say. Again, that's Tuesday, June 12th, 7 p.m. Eastern, 4 p.m. Pacific. And you can find our live stream on Facebook and YouTube to watch, so don't miss it. Also, more good news for podcast listeners. Ben Shapiro show along with our other Daily Wire podcast is now available on Amazon Alexa and the Google Home device. So now your home could be filled with the rich, supple tones of my voice, with the simple voice command. But first, you have to activate the show. So with Alexa, you have to enable the skill. It's like adding an app. You say, Alexa, enable the Ben Shapiro show's skill. And then you can tell her to play or open Alexa, play the Ben Shapiro show. And then Google doesn't need to be added by a user, but you have to speak very clearly for her to understand because I don't know what Google's problem is. But just say a command like, OK, Google, talk to the Ben Shapiro show or, OK, Google, speak to the Ben Shapiro show. And now your device should be able to play my podcast and your quality of life will improve immeasurably. If you need to review those directions, just go over to the PIN posts on DailyWire Twitter and DailyWire Facebook to check it out.

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Okay. and your quality of life will improve immeasurably. If you need to review those directions, just go over to the pin posts on Daily Wire Twitter and DailyWire Facebook to check it out. Okay, now that's not the only announcement. Also, we have to say thank you to our sponsors over at Legal Zoom. So it's time for that mid-year check-in. It's almost halfway through the year, folks. This is crazy. So if you're like everyone else, you have a few things left on your to-do list for 2018, which is why LegalZoom is extending their friends and family discount to

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This offer is only available for a limited time. Go over to LegalZoom.com. I've been using LegalZoom for years. And now, again, they have this entire new service where if you have legal questions, you can go to a network of independent attorneys who can give you advice for your business, estate plan, et cetera. Use promo code Ben at legalzoom.com and you get 10% off LegalZoom or Life Meets Legal. Check out LegalZoom.com and use that promo code, Ben. All right. So just breaking before today's show, the big news was that the Supreme Court has ruled in the masterpiece cake shop case. So if you don't remember the masterpiece cake shop case, this is a case where a guy owned a bakery and this gay couple came in in 2012 and they wanted a cake for their same-sex wedding and he said, no, I'm a religious baker, so no. And you'd be happy to sell them a cake. If they were just gay people who want a cake, you'd be happy to give them their cake because who cares. But they wanted a cake that said on it, you know, a happy wedding to Bob and Joe or whatever it was. And this Christian Baker said, listen, I'm not going to be part of fording what I think is a sin, which seems like a basic American freedom. Well, the Colorado Civil Rights Commission immediately cracked down on the guy and tried to basically run him out of business for this grave and horrible sin. We've seen the same sort of issue arise with Baronell Stutzman up in the state of Oregon, where Baronell Stutzman was Washington, Washington, Baronel Stutzman, where Baronell Stutzman was a florist and she didn't want to do floral arrangements for a lesbian wedding, and then she was basically run out of business by the state. We've seen the same thing with photographers in New Mexico. So we've seen this sort of thing happening all over the country. So the Supreme Court avoided the big issue. So the headline that you're hearing today

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from the left is, oh my God, the Supreme Court has stood with religious people against gay people.

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That's what the Supreme Court just did. Okay, first of all,

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here is my view of this case and every other case like it. I do not believe that it is the government's job to tell you who you can and cannot do business with. And that includes discrimination. Okay, I'm open about this. I think that if you want to discriminate against a Jew, that is your problem. And you know what I will do? I will go start an alternative business and I will run you out of business. I will go to the business across the street and they will get my patronage and they will run you out of business. I think this is true across the board. I don't see why this is a freedom of religion issue per se, because it seems like this unparallible to me. Now I understand this is unpalatable to people because we have this weird idea in America that if you don't like something, it ought to be illegal? Well, I don't like a lot of things. I don't think they ought to be illegal. I'm not a same-sex marriage fan. I don't think it ought to be illegal. I'm libertarian on same-sex marriage. I think the government should get completely out of the business of marriage. Well, just as I am libertarian on the issue of same-sex marriage, I'm libertarian on the issue of whether a business order ought to be forced to cater to a particular population. Even if that business owner is a jerk,

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even if that business owner ought to be forced to cater to a particular population.

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Even if that business owner is a jerk, even if that business owner is a racist or a homophobe, well, you want to be a racist or homophob? Guess what? You're going to go out of business, because that's the way the market works. Capitalism is the single greatest force for tolerance in the history of humanity, not government control from above. Okay, so that's my perspective on this. But this case doesn't go that far. It also doesn't go as far as to even say that religious people have a right to act religiously in their business. The case doesn't even say that if you are a baker, that you have the right to reject catering to a same-sex wedding. Instead, this case has decided 7 to 2 on the narrowest possible grounds, and that is the Colorado Civil Rights Commission is mean. Really, that's how the case was decided. The case is written by Anthony Kennedy, who is an excreble justice, just an awful, awful justice. He has never seen a copy of the Constitution, apparently, and so he just sort of wanders around in his bathrobe, and depending on whether he had his metamusel-led bowel movement that morning, he decides how to rule. So here was his ruling today, delivering the opinion of the court. And this is a nonsensical ruling. It's a nonsensical ruling because it doesn't get to any key issue. It's good for the particular baker in this case, but it does not establish a broad principle that religious people can actually act religiously in their businesses, which you would assume would be protected by freedom of religion. I mean, when I say freedom of religion,

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generally what I mean is my ability to act religiously throughout my life, including in my business. That's not what the Supreme Court says. Instead, they simply evade the issue. So the court holds, and this is in the court's summary. This is the summary of the case. At the very beginning of every case, the court puts out basically a summary of the ruling. Here's what they hold.

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The laws and the Constitution can and in some instances must protect gay persons and gay

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couples in the exercise of their civil rights, but religious and philosophical objections

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to gay marriage are protected views and in some instances protected forms of expression.

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Which is extraordinarily

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vague. While it is unexceptionable that Colorado law can protect gay persons in acquiring products

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and services on the same terms and conditions as are offered to other members of the public,

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