4.8 • 719 Ratings
🗓️ 31 December 2019
⏱️ 27 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hi, and welcome to Jesus Over Everything, a short practical podcast that mixes encouragement, |
0:05.1 | the Bible, how-toes, and fantastic interviews for the listener on the go. I'm Lisa Whittle, and I welcome |
0:10.8 | you to the Joe interview show with me, which I trust and pray will be time well spent. This last rerun |
0:16.7 | show is a dear one to me, for many reasons. This man, Derek Hawkins, is not only one of my pastors, |
0:23.0 | but he's also a friend and a man radically changed by God. I see some books and other things in his |
0:28.3 | future, but the way he poured into this show is worth more than 10 books, in my opinion. I always gleaned |
0:34.0 | from every interview, truly I do, Almost all guests I have really liked and had |
0:38.5 | rapport with. But this interview was something extra special. It was the first time that I felt |
0:45.0 | true Holy Spirit chills and I felt it and sensed it from the minute he came on. It was the |
0:50.3 | first time a response to a question made me cry. Derek spoke so powerfully about how Jesus rescued him and how we can become more than our past. |
1:00.2 | I just felt not only the presence of God, but the humility and gratitude of a man who felt truly rescued by him. |
1:06.4 | It was a church service on the air. |
1:08.7 | Truly is one of my favorite interviews ever. We talked about race. |
1:12.9 | We talked about the church. We were both really honest. It was very special to me. And get this, |
1:18.9 | Derek had never been on a podcast before. It was his very first one ever. I was even more |
1:25.1 | blown away by that. And you will be too when you listen to my pastor |
1:28.5 | and friend, Derek Hawkins. So a lot of my listeners won't know who you are right off, Derek, |
1:39.3 | but that's one of the reasons I'm having you on because people need to hear from you. I want you to give us a little |
1:45.9 | piece of your background, but first, I want everyone to know that you're one of my pastors at my |
1:49.9 | church, the refuge. You pastor one of our out-of-town campuses. When I've heard you preach, I have loved it |
1:55.9 | because you are anointed, my friend. You really are. Thank you so much, Lisa. Thank you so much for this |
2:01.8 | awesome opportunity to be able to share our story. A little bit about my background. I came from a |
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