Well, hey, all you wiretappers out there. This is Gary Jenkins. As a lot of you know,

retired Kansas City Police Intelligence Unit Detective and now podcast host and producer and all that.

And I was contacted by my guest I had on recently. It was only known as Matt.

He's a guy who supplied all information to the author of Brantley Scarborough, who wrote Made in Long Island.

I was just out a couple of weeks ago.

And I've never met Scarborough, and I don't know anymore about him, and I've never met Matt in person.

I've had some emails and some Zoom calls with Matt, but I've never actually seen him either.

But I recognize his accent, and he does

come from the Long Island, New York area. And he does have some interesting stories about growing up

with younger mobsters and the banana and Gambino families and doing the fireworks business with

Gotti and some of the other horse racing fixing business and that's kind of thing.

But he made quite a claim that the accepted suspects and the hit on the banana wannabe boss, Carmine, the cigar, Galante, was not who the government claims it is.

And the government only claims one guy, and that's Bruno or Anthony Bruno in Delicado.

He claims it was some young guys who had a grudge against Galante, and they heard that this

hit was approved by the commission,

and they jumped in there and did it before Joe Massino got his crew set,

and we're all ready to go and carry out this approved hit.

Now, there's no dispute that the commission approved this hit, I don't think.

There may be some disagreement about who actually carried it out.

I think there's no doubt that the two Zips who were bodyguards,

Cesare Bonaventre and Baldessario Amado, did not resist the head. They didn't, they took no action and just walked out and left. And then were interviewed by the government later on, of course,

wouldn't say anything. They probably knew he was scheduled to be hit.

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