The The timing of when you say a word in relationship to the beat that can be everything because the MC has to be a drum within the beat.

I'm looking for that in the stand-up comic.

Absolutely. I'm looking for it in the presidential speech. I'm always

looking for the timing of when a word is dropped. It's beautiful. The dope

pause that sucks you in. Oh Obama was the man at that.

That's an art too that I had to learn.

When to pull a word, when there just shouldn't be a word,

when to just breathe right there,

like, it's all hard.

Joe Button is a force in hip-hop culture.

He's an MC who retired and became a podcaster and became a way bigger voice in the culture because he keeps it extra real.

Joe ain't easy to interview, but he's great to talk to. I am so excited to bring this one to you guys. Right now it's

the mighty Joe Button on Torrey show.

Just the sound of your voice is really unique and powerful. It's very deep and it comes from very deep in your throat, in your chest and it really stands out.

Comes from years of bad judgment and regrets.

Smoking?

Oh man.

Yeah, yeah, but I do like what it has done to my voice probably not for my health.

It's you're much deeper than most rappers.

Deeper in one way.

I mean like the sound. the sound and the gravel and like the

depth from within your chest that it comes from yeah a lot of rappers voice is kind of high.

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