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The Higherside Chats

Joe Atwill | The Hidden Hand of Power, Economic Upheaval, & Ruined Cultures

The Higherside Chats

Greg Carlwood

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Spirituality, News, News Commentary

4.73.5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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About Today's Guest: 
Joseph Atwill is an independent scholar and author known for his controversial theory that the Roman Flavian emperors invented Christianity as a tool of political propaganda. His most notable work, Caesar’s Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus (2005), argues that the New Testament Gospels were written by figures connected to the Flavian dynasty—specifically Vespasian, Titus, and Domitian—to pacify Jewish resistance and legitimize Roman rule .
Atwill has also authored Shakespeare’s Secret Messiah (2014), expanding his thesis to suggest that later literary figures like Christopher Marlowe and William Shakespeare were influenced by the same Roman literary traditions.
For more information on his work, you can visit his official website: www.caesarsmessiah.com.
You can also hear him weekly on the Powers and Principalities episodes of the Our Interesting Times Podcast with Tim Kelly: https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/tkelly6785757



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Transcript

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0:00.0

The planet's puppet masters almost surely have a plan.

0:07.0

Therely maybe some The planet's puppet masters almost surely have a plan.

0:23.6

There's clearly maybe something there beyond the realm of man.

0:27.6

I do it thoroughly tested every last close-chested view.

0:31.6

I find the more we think we know, the less we really do.

0:36.6

Where would we be without THC?

0:40.7

Because we know they're lying to us, just don't know to what degree.

0:45.8

Where would we be without THC?

0:51.0

The high side chat show Greg Callwood and Company.

0:57.0

Oh, oh. The Highside chat show Greg Carlewood and company. So say we all hire side chatterers from the Sunshine State.

1:04.5

I'm Greg Carlewood, and we've been around long enough to know that so many cultural movements and political shifts that are presented as

1:11.1

organic, grassroots, and spontaneous are almost always the result of CIA engineering,

1:16.9

media manipulation, or billionaire funding. It's to the point that the authenticity of anything

1:21.6

needs to be thoroughly tested, and when everyone starts acting or thinking a certain way,

1:26.0

whether COVID tariffs or geopolitical tensions,

1:29.0

it's a good idea to wonder why that is and if the popular position is even the right one.

1:33.8

There are complex forces at play involved in sophisticated manipulation with unadvertised motivation.

1:40.0

So why let yourself get swept up in anything?

1:43.1

And here to remind us of such things coming back for a third time is the great Joe Atwell.

1:48.5

You know him as the author of Caesar's Messiah, a book that makes a great case that the New Testament was crafted as Roman state propaganda by the Flavian dynasty, as well as his follow-up, Shakespeare's Secret Messiah.

2:00.0

You can hear him weekly on the Powers and Principalities episodes of the Our Interesting

2:04.1

Times podcast with Tim Kelly.

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