The court will often issue a cryptic opinion.

We're talking about like one paragraph.

It will say what should happen, but it won't say why.

From the Tet Audio Collective, this is Design Matters with Debbie Milman.

On Design Matters, Debbie talks with some of the most creative people in the world about what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and working on.

On this episode, a wide-ranging discussion with Jody Cantor about her career in journalism,

about Harvey Weinstein and Me Too, about the Supreme Court and the Shadow Docket,

and about the importance of entry-level work for young people.

It's hard and it's slow, and it's hard and it's low, and then it turns into something wonderful.

Jody Cantor is a Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist at the New York Times.

Her pioneering work has reshaped how we understand power, accountability, and the systems that govern our lives,

from the workplace to the highest levels

of American institutions. She has led groundbreaking investigations into corporate culture,

labor practices, and sexual misconduct, including reporting that helped ignite a global

reckoning and earned her journalism's highest honors.

Jody is the co-author of the New York Times bestselling book,

She Said, Breaking the Sexual Harassment Story, that helped ignite a movement,

which was adapted into a major motion picture,

and her reporting has led to measurable changes in policy and practices

across multiple industries. Her new book, How to Start, Discovering Your Life's Work,

turns her attention to a different but equally urgent question, how young people begin,

and how they make decisions about work, purpose, and direction in a world where the existing rules no longer apply.

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