This is the Jocco Underground podcast number nine with Echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink.

Good evening, Echo.

Good evening.

All right, so last episode we did, we were talking about body language, how to read it,

how to make sure you aren't sending signals, you don't want to send.

But it was from a, almost from a leadership perspective, interpersonal relationship scenario,

how you're going to read somebody you're negotiating like this kind of thing, right?

And as I started thinking about that, I started thinking about, so going from that into the

spectrum, which is, hey, I'm trying to negotiate, conversate, whatever, I'm trying to, trying

to communicate with you verbally.

Go to the other end of the spectrum and you end up in different situations and you,

in it from a simplistic, from a very extremely overly simplistic view.

There's all these different categories of people in the world and there's two categories

of people that we may or may not fall into at certain times that we should think about

when it comes to body language, when it comes to posture, when it comes to perception.

And that is predator and prey.

What do criminals look for?

So we don't want to be prey, obviously.

What do criminals look for?

And there is a quote in there serial killer Ted Bundy admitted in a personal interview

in 1985 that he could tell a victim by the way she walked down the street that tilt of

her head the manner in which she carried herself.

...