This is the Jocko Underground Podcast number 125 sitting with Echo Charles. I was talking to some

young military personnel.

Recently I was talking about combat.

Talking about war. Talking about how that's what we wanted.

And these guys were young because I guess what they wanted. Combat war. wanted and part of it's the

part of it's the ultimate test you actually hear that you ever heard that

war the ultimate test combat's the ultimate test. Combat is the ultimate test. And if you're in the military,

especially if you're in combat arms, specifically like an infantryman or special operations,

then it is full on.

This is the test.

This is the test.

Like, how do you compare the football game with the combine.

Right, so you do the combine.

Did you guys do the combine in college?

Wasn't a thing yet?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we do the combine test.

So you're doing the test in college, right?

Yeah, but the combine is an event an actual

event then there's the combine like exercises that you do it started as just like a

test yeah it's a test but it's a test held at a certain time

for a certain reason. Now it is. Yeah. Didn't used to be that. Oh yeah it always

was ever since I ever knew but okay. So it's a test it's like you're you're learning where what your

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