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That's the Zendesk AI effect Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it. This is Undaunted Life a Man's podcast.

I'm your host, Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it. Joby Martin, welcome to your church. It is, yep, our church, but yeah, I know what you mean. Well, and this is your church. And I go to your church when I'm here, right? That's how we're supposed to talk about it when we're at a 122. It's ultimately Jesus is church, but if I'm hearing you're here, it's our church.

It's just semantics.

Here we are at your church,. It's ultimately Jesus is church, but if I'm here and you're here, it's our church.

It's just semantics.

Here we are at your church and we are in your studio, your podcast studio.

I feel the power. Isn't this your chair that you normally sit or is this making sure? I sit right here. That's Brit. Pastor Brits chair. Do I have to say smart things out on my face holding

The entire time now?

All right, I'm not really prepared for that.

But what I am prepared for...

It's actually Landon Studio.

Landon?

Yeah.

Landon, do you have a mic back there?

Are you like Jamie from Joe Rogan? Are you going to say something? I think we should get Landon out here at some point. Lany, you want to come out here, show your face? Because I keep talking to Landon like he's there. And then no one ever knows that he's real. It's kind of like, I have a girlfriend. She just goes to a different school, right? So you're like our girlfriend, Land is what we're saying.

By the way like he's there and then no one ever knows that he's real it's kind of like I have a girlfriend she just goes to a different school right so you're like our girlfriend land is what we're saying by the way he's sweating right now I know it his biggest fear is that we would make him come out here and do something landon I refuse to ask a question until you come out here and say hi to the people Landon you should come on Landon he says waving from there. But guys, this is a great day. I've been looking forward to this day for a while because this book right here, Stand Firm and Act Like Men by Joby Martin and Charles Martin, not related, becoming the man you were created to be instead of who the world says you are. I read this book on an airplane about five months ago. Okay. Right? So I've been sitting on my thoughts. Okay. My questions for a substantial period of time. It's driving me absolutely insane. So we got to get all this. We got to release the pressure. But I do want to start with the book dedication. So the book dedication, right, which by the way, guys, if you are just listening to this on time. This is coming out the day the book is out. So you can go to Amazon. You can go to your

favorite bookstore and whatever. You can buy this book. You should definitely check it out. Here's the book dedication. I dedicate this to the men that have shown me how to stand firm and act like a man. Thank you, Daddy, Lars, Bill, Coach Bull, and Jerry. So just very quickly, because we

don't have time, we spend the rest of the time talking about those five men, but why those five men?

Well, first, my dad, that'd be probably pretty obvious. Bill Ross is the guy that hired me

right out of seminary, and he showed me how to be a pastor without sacrificing your

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