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I first discovered the philosopher of ecology Joanna Macy as a translator of the poetry of Rhino Maria Rilka. We take that exquisite poetry as a lens on

Joanna Macy's wisdom on the great dramas of our time, ecological, political, personal.

Rilka sought the shape of meaning in a now vanished Central Europe at the turn of the last century.

Joanna Macy's vision took shape in crucibles of the 20th century.

I spoke with her in 2010. of the

20th century. I spoke with her in 2010. Now entering her 90s

Joanna Macy says we are at a pivotal moment in history

with possibilities of unraveling or of creating a life-sustaining human society.

You're always asked to sort of stretch a little bit more

and actually were made for that.

But in any case, there's absolutely no excuse

for making our passionate love for our world dependent

on what we think of its degree of health,

whether we think it's going to go on forever.

This moment you're alive.

I'm Krista Tippett and this is on being.

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