This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka. That's me. I am part of the Box Media Podcast Network. I'm speaking to you today at the Brooklyn Academy Music, and I'm talking to Jimmy Kimmel, America's foremost healthcare expert. Welcome, Jimmy. Thank you. If we hear rumbling, it doesn't mean we're being attacked. There's trains running underneath us. Oh, is that what's happening? Yeah, we were above a

transit hub. You know, as far as I can tell, based on my conversations with people here in Brooklyn,

the trains aren't running that frequently, so I think we should be happy that the trains are running.

It's better to be above the train than in the train. People seem very frustrated by the subway.

Yeah, it's our version of traffic complaints.

But it seems to be much more prevalent than it was the last couple of times we were here doing the show.

It got way worse.

What happened?

I guess there's more people.

You think that's it?

There's not a good excuse for it.

Part of the problem, if you want to get deep into it, is that the subway is funded by the state. Yes. The state is not very excited about helping New York City improve their subway. Why? Because the mayor and the governor. Mayor and governor don't get along. And also, if you're in Rochester or Buffalo, you're not really interested in helping Peter Kafka get to work. Maybe I'll make this my next emotional stand. You could do five. You've got five shows in Brooklyn, five or four? Five. Five. Welcome back to Brooklyn. Thank you. You were here two years ago, right? Yes. The world's different now. You were trying to have Donald Trump was going to be a guest, not president. Yeah, that's right. That's right. I forgot about that. He bailed on you. Yeah, he did bail on us.

You showed him. Yeah, well, he obviously made the right decision. Who knows if he'd kept that booking, maybe we would have a different president right now. Boy, that'd be a fun time travel. I mentioned the health care stuff. That's two, three weeks ago now? Yes. No, health care? longerer, yeah, longer than that. Some period. About around a month. How was your life changed since you became a health care expert? Well, a lot more people say mean things to me on the internet. Other than that. Not to your face. Pretty much the same. No, never to my face. It's never happened to my face.

Do people have a different expectation out of the show now?

I don't know if they do.

I don't think it necessarily matters if they do. I think that I still have to do what I always do, which is talk about what's happening

in the news and talk about what's happening in my life and just go from

that standpoint. And if things happen that, like, what happened with my son and what happened in Las Vegas,

then, and I feel compelled to speak about them, I will. But I don't feel like I need to weigh in on

every issue. Bob Eiger was quoted in Times last week saying you should, it was okay that you talked about health care, it was okay that you talked about the shooting, but you should, I think the word would you should be careful. Yeah, well, I think, I mean, maybe I'm translating this conveniently, but I think he's right in that if you speak about this, if you go too far, if you talk about it too much, then it's not

interesting. Then it's not, it doesn't have an impact. Did he reach out to you one way or the

other during the healthcare stuff or during the before, after the shooting monologue? Yes, he did,

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