If we hope to uncover and punish or deter corruption,

we need to support whistleblowers and we need to support journalists, two key communities.

And our first panel reflects the overlap of those two communities. Jim Wasserstrom,

he's the founder and CEO of the Integrity Sanctuary and Fellowship and director of the

Wasserstrum group. He's himself a whistleblower, and he's featured in a BBC documentary that came

out this week called The Whistleblowers Inside the UN.

Jim, why don't you share your whistleblower experience with us?

My name is Jim Wasserstrom and I'm a whistleblower.

I feel like that's something I would say at Alcoholics Anonymous, but I am.

My story begins. I work for nearly three decades for the United Nations, various agencies of the UN,

and at a certain point I was assigned to the UN mission in Kosovo, where we had, at the time,

we had full executive authority over the then-breakaway province from Serbia, and I was part

of the administration of that particular province. I was in charge of the public

utilities. The public utilities in Koso and in all of the former Yugoslavia, as well as much of

the East Block, are very much nests of corruption. And my boss, the governor at the time, was the

special representative, the Secretary General, asked me to take a look at these

mountains of external audit reports on what was happening inside of the public utilities, which

were in the billions of euros in terms of their contribution to the gross domestic product

of Kosovo.

So I went through them with a team of people and discovered that, yes, in fact, there was

enormous corruption that was taking place in these institutions. And so he said, great. So you seem to know a little

bit about this, so you will establish an office to clean them up. So I said, well, I already

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