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Evan & Tiki

Jim Schwartz Quits, Stoutland Walks, Philly Feels Rotten, and the Brady vs Bill Debate Won’t Die

Evan & Tiki

Audacy

Sports

4.2988 Ratings

🗓️ 6 February 2026

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

This segment rips through a wild coaching carousel update: Jim Schwartz reportedly gets disrespected on his way out, then decides he’s done with Cleveland and sits out, raising the big question of whether teams can still “hold rights” on coordinators the way they do with head coaches. From there, the spotlight swings to Jeff Stoutland’s resignation in Philadelphia and why it screams dysfunction, especially after his run game coordinator role got yanked mid-season. The convo turns into “who benefits?” fast, with Jets and Giants angles, Frank Reich’s connection, and the reality that if Philly blocks a lateral move, Stoutland might have to sit too. Add in the Eagles vibe check, AJ Brown trade chatter, retirement rumors, and suddenly the NFC East feels wide open, with Giants optimism creeping into the conversation again. Then it’s calls: a Brady vs Belichick argument that spirals into a Jets-drafted-Brady alternate universe, why Super Bowls need luck plus infrastructure, and a reminder that the best Super Bowl is the one that is actually a football game, not a headline circus. Finally, the cherry on top: Brady’s “no dog in the fight” gets compared to Russell Wilson’s all-about-me feed, and the idea that Russ might secretly root against Seattle just to protect his own legacy.

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0:00.0

Jim Schwartz, who was passed up for the Cleveland Browns head coaching job, and then got insulted by the guy who got the job over him, Todd Munkin, by saying,

0:08.9

I never game planned for Jim Schwartz. I game plan for Miles Garrett, which, yes, it's true, but it's an insult.

0:16.0

Jim Schwartz has announced that he's not going to coach with Cleveland, no surprise there, and is going to sit out the season. And so come next year, I assume he's no longer under contract and he'll be a free agent. That's the one thing I don't know. Like, does Cleveland own his rights because he resigned? But he will be one of the hottest and most attractive defensive coordinators. He would have been one this year too because he's really good. I thought he had a real

0:38.3

chance to be the Niners, D.C. They either going with Rahim Morris, which is a great hire in itself. But he is one of the better defensive coordinators. Does it work the same way with coordinators as it does with head coaches? Yeah, unless he's getting a head coach, Cleveland can say we're not letting you take a lateral move and they own his rights. So that might be why he's going to sit out of a year.

0:54.9

And that works the same way with a toll. That's my question though. Like for head coaches, Sean Payton sat out a year, but his contract, which still had another year, kind of told. They still owned it. So if he sits out a year, Jim Swartz, does that contract end? I need to confirm this. But my guess is maybe it tells that he just feels like they'll be more likely to just let him out in a year. And they would let him. I don't think he got really a ton of opportunities because he probably assumed that he was getting the job. It was also very late in the process. I mean, think about what jobs were available. We mentioned San Francisco was one of them. They ended up going with Rahim Morris.

1:28.5

Like there weren't a lot of D.C. jobs that were out there.

1:31.1

Yeah, that's right. And the same question applies to the other resignation that occurred in the last 24 hours. And that's Jeff Stoutland, a guy you've talked about before because when talking about Sequin, the Eagles, the Giants,

1:43.1

many times you've gone out of your way to say,

1:45.7

they're coaching, their offensive line.

1:48.5

And Jeff Stoutland's been responsible for that for the last decade as the Philadelphia Eagles

1:52.1

offensive line coach since 2013.

1:55.0

He has resigned, and it's come out that he just felt marginalized.

1:59.0

He did get marginalized.

1:59.9

They took away.

2:18.1

What role from him? So he was the run game coordinator. So he essentially designed and helped call their run game. And we saw it last season with Sequin Barclay rushed for 2,000 yards and what, the ninth person player to ever do that. And it was just a fantastic season all the way around. Obviously was helped because of kellen more so they lose kellen more petulow is their offensive coordinator

2:22.6

and it just felt like they were at odds because nothing ever felt right there was a couple of games

2:28.4

of seacon sequin went off but it was not the same and so he got scapegoated and got demoted.

2:35.7

His run game coordinator position got taken away from him midseason.

2:39.7

And it was just the beginning of the writing on the wall.

2:43.2

So he's left Philadelphia.

2:44.6

It seems like no one wants to be in Philadelphia anymore, which is awesome.

2:47.7

And one thing that jumped out at me is that the Jets, new offensive coordinator, Frank Reich,

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