The reason why we come to ACC kickoff is to chat with the man who is sitting down with us right now. He's the commissioner. Jim Phillips, Commissioner of the ACC. Jim, thanks for having us. And more importantly, five years. You're in your fifth year as ACC commissioner. I feel like we have to commemorate this somehow. We have gifts for you. We do. We got a four-pack of O2. We got a four-pack of O2. Light and more importantly.

That's your... I feel like we have to commemorate this somehow. We have gifts for you. We do.

We got a four-pack of OG.

And more importantly, that's yours if you wanted.

Absolutely.

But more importantly, we know that you want to pick up golf here in the future.

It's on the agenda.

I do.

I do.

My wife and I, when we were dating, we played golf. When we first got married,

we played golf. And then when we started to have a family, we felt like golf was not possible.

It's a lot of time commitment there. And so five kids later, this last one that's in high school,

is the moment that we drop him off in college,

I think we're going to play a round of 18 and pick the clubs back up.

We have this for you. When you come back, we have a wonderful sponsor in Roeback.

And as you see, as I'm wearing, the flag is our logo, but it represents NC State, Duke, and Carolina. And Wake Forest with the yellow. Roeback is big time. They are. They are really big time. That is the best goal in the business. Appreciate it. Okay. So, thank you. I'm curious, as you kind of look back on the five years, when you took the job, what,

February of 21 when you started, I can't imagine that you thought you'd be drinking from the

fire hose of college changes.

Usually it's a, you've been part of the NCAA for a very, very long time.

You know things usually happen at an almost glacial pace. That has not been the case in the last five years.

It's massive. You guys cover it every day. You followed it very closely. No one could have predicted

some of these things, maybe a few of the things, but not all of it. And it's all come together at the same time.

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