Let's podcast. Alongside Joe Jillio, I'm Joe Ovias. We are not inside Eifford Studios. We are in Charlotte.

As always, we're brought to you by Copiers Plus. Check them out online at Copiers.com. I could use them for a little print management, document management, even some Ford management. I think I finally figured out our technology camera issues today. Okay. Very excited about this. Also very excited to sit down with Jake Dickert, the new Wake Forest football coach. Our friends, West Durham and Taylor Tanbaum will be dropping by. My guy, Mike Solarte, help us talk a little Panthers football on today's show as well. So this will be like a theme. We're getting all of your old timers. Getting all of our friends together.

One quick programming note, the Jim Phillips conversation,

ACC Commissioner conversation, is its own separate thing.

I put that on the podcast feed.

You should have seen it already.

And of course, it's on YouTube as its own thing, too.

Figured that can just be broken out to its own thing.

So if you want to check that out, go listen to that standalone episode, both on your

favorite podcast platforms and, of course, on YouTube.

Charlotte, so I got to hand it to you, Joe.

You found the bougie part of Charlotte for the Airbnb.

And totally by accident. Absolutely by accident. And my favorite Charlotte for the Airbnb. Totally by accident.

Absolutely by accident.

And my favorite part about the Airbnb that you secured on sale

on us.

It was on sale.

We have to be fiscally responsible here at OG Media LLC.

Jay will be very happy to know that I saved us a bunch of money on our Airbnb.

But what I did not realize is that there was a hot tub. I didn't either.

So when I got to the Airbnb after hanging out at ACC hospitality, you're nowhere to be found inside the Airbnb.

Nope. So I'm checking out the place. I watch to the kitchen. And then what do I see through the windows?

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