Hey what's up everybody welcome to the Financial Independence Podcast. The podcast that

gets inside the brains of some of the best and brightest in personal finance to find

out how they achieved financial dependence. I have a treat for you today because I am

welcoming back a past guest coach Carson and you may remember him from episode number

32 and Chad is coming back on the show because he just released a book called The Small

and Mighty Real Estate Investor how to reach financial freedom with fewer rental properties.

And I'm not a real estate investor myself but if I was to do it I think this would be

the way I would do it because you see a lot of things online about you know getting

the most leverage to buy the most amount of properties and it seems like a crazy way

to live in my opinion but small and mighty sounds just about right but since I'm not

a real estate investor I figured why not get someone who is a real estate investor to

talk to Chad because they're going to ask a lot better questions because I won't even

know what to ask since I don't invest in real estate. So my friend Jillian John's Rude who

I spent a lot of time with at the UK Shatakwa many years back and Jillian is a small and

mighty real estate investor and she talks about that during the show but she thankfully

was willing to take on the role of host and they had an excellent discussion that I'm

going to share with you today so thanks to Chad Carson coach Carson for coming back

on the show and huge thanks to Jillian for taking over the role of host today so take

it away Jillian. Hello hello welcome to the Financial Independence Podcast and if you

can gather the lovely voice you hear is not that of Brandon my name is Jillian John's

Rude and I'm super excited to be doing kind of this podcast takeover. Today we're going

to talk about an idea that I'm so excited about and that is how do we get to our ideal

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