JF 4053: Owning a Town, Land Notes and Investor Lessons ft. Jon Jasniak

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Best Ever CRE

Business, Investing, Entrepreneurship

4.7 • 996 Ratings

🗓️ 9 October 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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On this week’s episode of Passive Income Playbook, Pascal Wagner interviews Jon Jasniak. Jon shares how he built a multimillion-dollar land business since 2017, completing over 30 subdivisions and selling more than 10,000 acres, often doubling investor capital in months. He explains why land—though overlooked compared to multifamily and storage—can deliver outsized returns through subdividing and seller financing, while also breaking down misconceptions around cash flow, liquidity, and risk. Jon also talks about his $1M+ experiment of buying a Texas town, lessons from defaults and note sales, and what LPs should look for when investing in land operators. Jon JasniakCurrent role: Founder of Jazzland, Land Investor and DeveloperBased in: Midland, TexasSay hi to them at: Instagram | YouTube | http://jonjasniak.com Try Gusto today at gusto.com/CRE , and get three months free when you run your first payroll. This is a limited time offer, so head over to aspenfunds.us/bestever to download the investor deck—or grab their quick-start guide if you’re brand new to oil and gas investing. Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Podcast production done by ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	You've probably noticed this. Despite all the headlines about record investment in renewables,
0:04.8	the world still runs on oil. In fact, demand keeps climbing. But here's what most investors don't
0:10.8	realize. A lot of institutional capital has actually pulled back from oil and gas because of
0:15.8	ESG mandates and political pressure. That's created a huge gap in production and a big opportunity for
0:22.1	individual investors. That's where Aspen's oil and gas fund comes in. Their last fund has
0:27.4	delivered six straight quarters of 15% annualized cash yield from producing oil wells. With their
0:33.3	current fund, they're targeting 29% cash on cash returns in over 10 years and 8.83 times equity
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0:45.1	stability of producing wells with the upside of carefully selected drilling projects. And here's a
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0:55.8	down to $100,000. One of their investors, Terry, put it best. We were new to oil and gas
1:02.1	investing and quickly found Aspen's approach sound. We've been very satisfied with the experience
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1:11.9	Aspenfunds.us.us forward slash best ever to download the investor deck or grab their
1:17.7	quick start guide if you're brand new to oil and gas investing. When most people hear land investing,
1:23.4	they picture flipping raw dirt or speculating on a future development, but John Jasniak has taken a very different approach.
1:34.1	In this episode of the Passive Income Playbook on The Best Ever CRE show, I'm joined by John Jasnyat, founder of Jazzland and a leading voice in the direct-to-seller land space.
1:47.1	Over the past few years, John has bought and sold thousands of acres and built a note
1:51.9	portfolio with over 150 plus performing land loans. I think it's over $10 million at this point.
2:00.0	And so he knows his way around this space.
2:01.9	And in this episode, we're breaking down the different ways that you can invest in land
2:07.0	in which strategies actually cash flow.
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