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The Best Ever CRE Show

JF 4021: Weak Jobs Data, Fed Cuts and A Rare Debt Window with John Chang

The Best Ever CRE Show

Best Ever CRE

Business, Investing, Entrepreneurship

4.7996 Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s episode of Horizon Podcast, John Chang breaks down the newest jobs report, why the Fed is poised to cut, and how a sub-4 percent 10-year Treasury creates a short window to lock attractive debt for acquisitions and refis. He explains why policy uncertainty and tariffs could stoke stagflation, then maps the likely impacts by asset class, from steady necessity retail and mixed industrial outlooks to a nascent office recovery fueled by rising return-to-office pressure. John also outlines why supply pipelines are tapering faster than demand in many markets, how absorption could remain positive even through a mild recession, and why real estate may still outperform stocks and bonds if inflation lingers. This is a limited time offer, so head over to aspenfunds.us/bestever to download the investor deck—or grab their quick-start guide if you’re brand new to oil and gas investing. Visit investwithsunrise.com to learn more about investment opportunities.  Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at ⁠https://www.stamps.com/cre⁠. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You've probably noticed this. Despite all the headlines about record investment in renewables,

0:04.8

the world still runs on oil. In fact, demand keeps climbing. But here's what most investors don't

0:10.8

realize. A lot of institutional capital has actually pulled back from oil and gas because of

0:15.8

ESG mandates and political pressure. That's created a huge gap in production and a big opportunity for

0:22.1

individual investors. That's where Aspen's oil and gas fund comes in. Their last fund has

0:27.4

delivered six straight quarters of 15% annualized cash yield from producing oil wells. With their

0:33.3

current fund, they're targeting 29% cash on cash returns in over 10 years and 8.83 times equity

0:39.9

multiple. I've personally been impressed with the way Aspen approaches a space balancing the

0:45.1

stability of producing wells with the upside of carefully selected drilling projects. And here's a

0:50.7

bonus for best ever listeners. Aspen has lowered their minimum investment from $150,000

0:55.8

down to $100,000. One of their investors, Terry, put it best. We were new to oil and gas

1:02.1

investing and quickly found Aspen's approach sound. We've been very satisfied with the experience

1:07.6

and delighted with the returns. This is a limited time offer, so head over to

1:11.9

Aspenfunds.us.us forward slash best ever to download the investor deck or grab their

1:17.7

quick start guide if you're brand new to oil and gas investing. Welcome to the Best Ever CRE show,

1:26.9

the world longest running daily commercial real estate podcast.

1:30.4

If you want real stories behind the good, the bad, and the worst ever deals, plus insights into what really goes on into commercial real estate investing, you're in the right place.

1:38.2

Our host interview commercial real estate experts every day to uncover secrets and strategies you can use to become a better, more informed investor.

1:45.5

This is the Best Ever CRE show.

1:51.9

Welcome back, Best Ever listeners to the Horizon podcast.

2:00.4

This week, I'm going to focus on the new jobs report,

2:04.5

what's happening with the Fed and what they're likely to do. I'm going to talk a little bit about

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