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The Best Ever CRE Show

JF 4019: Giving Your Way Out of Debt, Operator Red Flags and Building Resilient Wealth ft. Paul Moore

The Best Ever CRE Show

Best Ever CRE

Business, Investing, Entrepreneurship

4.7996 Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Next Level CRE, Matt Faircloth interviews Paul Moore. Paul shares his remarkable journey from selling his first company and chasing “shiny objects” that left him $2.5M in debt, to giving his way out during the 2008 crash, and eventually pivoting into real estate. He explains why multifamily wasn’t the “perfect investment,” how Wellings Capital now focuses on fund-of-funds strategies using Pareto’s principle to back only top-tier operators, and why diversification across operators, geographies, and asset classes is key. Paul also highlights how private equity firms vet operators, what passives should know about due diligence (including NOI audits), and how Wellings has raised over $800K to fight human trafficking through AIM Paul Moore Current role: Founder & Managing Partner, Wellings Capital Based in: Lynchburg, Virginia Say hi to them at: LinkedIn| Wellings Capital| AIM Free Get 50% Off Monarch Money, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarchmoney.com with code BESTEVER Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at ⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to the best ever CRE show, the world longest running daily commercial real estate

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