JF 3900: Capital Slowdown, Phoenix Deals, and Data-Driven Rent Growth ft. Michael Episcope

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🗓️ 9 May 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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On this episode of Next Level CRE, Matt Faircloth interviews Michael Episcope, co-founder of Origin Investments, about his journey from trading commodities to building a real estate firm with over 10,000 multifamily units transacted. Michael shares how his grandfather's scrappy approach to West Side Chicago buildings shaped his foundational real estate mindset, and how he applied those principles to launch Origin during the 2008 financial crisis. The conversation dives deep into why Origin focuses exclusively on Class A multifamily in high-growth markets, avoiding overleveraged deals and emphasizing risk management and rent-growth forecasting. Michael also discusses the current opportunity for savvy operators in the wake of the capital slowdown, highlighting the contrarian advantage in development today and the power of specialization in long-term success. Michael Episcope Current role: Co-Founder, Origin Investments Based in: Chicago, IL Say hi to them at: origininvestments.com Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/cre. Thanks to Stamps.com for sponsoring the show! Post your job for free at ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/BRE⁠. Terms and conditions apply. Join the Best Ever Community The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria. Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at www.bestevercommunity.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	What is happening best ever listeners? This is Matt Faircloth and welcome to the best ever CRE show in my segment called Next Level CRE, which gets broadcast every Friday. So mark a calendar for Fridays and your buddy Matt will be coming at you with new episodes for the next level CRE show talking about all kinds of things that are bringing you and your business and your life and your mindset to the next level. No different than today's episode with a phenomenal guy. I love interviewing
0:26.2	people that have built ginormous real estate businesses. Not that that's what we should
0:30.4	always have on this show, but it's really great to have people that have because it's good
0:34.3	to learn that mindset and the level of focus and intention and drive that it takes to build something that's in the, you know, 10, 20, 30,000 unit range, right?
0:45.1	Again, not that it's all about, but there is interest in, there's, there's a lot of nuggets to be drawn from scale.
0:52.2	And I get that some of you guys might not want to build a 10,000 or plus unit, you know, multifamily company. But regardless of what your goals are
1:01.0	for multifamily, there's a lot you can learn from people that have done that. So I want you guys
1:05.9	to listen about when we bring our guest, Michael Episcope on today, when you guys to really listen to what I
1:13.0	glean from it, which is focus, right? There's a lot that our guest Michael will say no to and a lot
1:18.8	of things. There's only a handful of things he'll say yes to. So what are you guys saying no to
1:23.1	right now in your business that is good? And what are you saying yes to right now that you probably
1:27.2	ought to be saying no to in that?
1:29.4	That's something maybe a little homework
1:30.8	I'll give you guys to ask yourself
1:32.4	as you guys listen to this episode.
1:34.2	Because I think that the more you say no on things
1:37.3	and then where you lean all the way into things
1:39.4	in your business that you'll say yes to,
1:41.2	I think the wealthy you're gonna get.
1:42.8	So let's bring our guest in and let's
1:44.9	talk about what his focuses are and how he got to where he is with this company origin
1:49.5	investments in Michael Episcope. Let's come on, bring him in. Best of the listeners, our guest
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