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Data Over Dogma

Jezebel!

Data Over Dogma

Data Over Dogma Media, LLC

History, Society & Culture

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Ooooh MAMA! For a story that's thousands of years old, we sure do hear a lot about Jezebel. Or do we? Pastors and Christian influencers like Mark Driscoll and Charlie Kirk love to invoke the idea of "Jezebel spirit" whenever they don't like what a woman is doing. But is their portrait of the character of Jezebel honest, or are they just looking for a bludgeon to beat up women? Then, we're looking at two groups that get mentioned a lot in the New Testament. Who are the Pharisees and Sadducees? Were they good guys? Bad guys? Just guys? What was their role in Jewish society at the time of Jesus, and is the Biblical account of them fair? ---- For early access to an ad-free version of every episode of Data Over Dogma, exclusive content, and the opportunity to support our work, please consider becoming a monthly patron at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/DataOverDogma⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠      Follow us on the various social media places: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/DataOverDogmaPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.twitter.com/data_over_dogma⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Have you ordered Dan McClellan's New York Times bestselling book ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Bible Says So⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ yet??? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, this is Matt from the Explorers podcast. I want to invite you to join me on the voyages and journeys of the most famous explorers in the history of the world. These are the thrilling and captivating stories of Vigelin, Shackleton, Lewis, and Clark, and so many other famous and not so famous adventures from throughout history.

0:22.8

Go to Explorespodcast.com or just look us up on your podcast app.

0:27.0

That's the Explorers Podcast.

0:30.8

According to some early Mormons, they inhabit an oasis behind ice walls up at the North Pole.

0:40.8

Wow!

0:41.9

Yeah.

0:42.5

Just throwing that out there, man.

0:45.2

You're just chucking that bomb and then running away.

0:48.0

Okay.

0:48.7

It's what we do here.

0:49.9

We show up, we muddy the waters, and we scamper off.

0:58.4

Okay. we show up with muddy the waters and we scamper off. Hey everybody, I'm Dan McClellan.

1:00.6

And I'm Dan Beecher.

1:02.0

And you're listening to the Data Over Dogma podcast where we increase public access to the academic

1:07.9

study of the Bible and religion.

1:10.2

And we combat the spread of that

1:12.6

wacky misinformation about the same. How are things today, Dan?

1:17.1

Wacky. Things are very wacky. We're going to get into some wackiness. I feel like I'm

1:23.3

like the morning talk radio guy. We need a, we need an air horn. Yeah. Well, I, yeah, or the, the, the trusty booyo-y-o-yo-yo-yo-yo-yo-you-m is always good. A slide whistle. We need all the things. We need it. But we won't have them, even though we are going to be talking about some clowns.

1:46.1

Yes. Or at least in my, in our estimation, we're bringing in a new, a new segment category.

1:55.2

Yes. We're calling it twisted scripture. Because we're not going to take it anymore. Because we're not going to take it anymore.

2:01.4

Because we're not going to take it.

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