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Data Over Dogma

Data Over Dogma Media, LLC

History, Society & Culture

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 August 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Atonement! It's one of the central ideas of Christianity, and is absolutely essential to Christian theology... so what is it? You might be surprised to know that throughout Christian history, atonement has meant many very different things. On this week's show, we'll discuss the twists and turns this idea has taken, as influential thinkers have grappled with the idea of the atonement of Jesus. Then, it's time to get lost in translation! Very few of us have put in the effort to actually learn to read ancient Hebrew, Greek, or Aramaic, and the ones who have are just a bunch of show-offs (lookin' at you, McClellan!). So if we want to read the Bible, most of us are stuck with translations. But here's the thing: a Bible translation is WAY more complicated than people might think! It's a shockingly in-depth process, where thousands of decisions have to be made, and those decisions can deeply impact the meaning that gets transmitted. Yes, we're talking about choosing how to render a certain phrase or ancient idiom, but it's more than that. They have to choose which source text to use! There are competing source texts! It's a mess. ---- For early access to an ad-free version of every episode of Data Over Dogma, exclusive content, and the opportunity to support our work, please consider becoming a monthly patron at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/DataOverDogma⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠      Follow us on the various social media places: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/DataOverDogmaPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.twitter.com/data_over_dogma⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Have you ordered Dan McClellan's New York Times bestselling book ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Bible Says So⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ yet??? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, this is Matt from the Explorers podcast. I want to invite you to join me on the voyages and journeys of the most famous explorers in the history of the world. These are the thrilling and captivating stories of Vigelin, Shackleton, Lewis, and Clark, and so many other famous and not so famous adventures from throughout

0:21.8

history. Go to Explorespodcast.com or just look us up on your podcast app. That's the Explorers

0:27.9

podcast. They're doing that with AI now. I know. They're using a lot of the Gen Z slang and everything.

0:36.4

So I think it's so funny when they've got Moses, he's like the sea has been split and people are like, oh.

0:43.4

And he's like, I told you all, trust the process.

0:46.9

And I was like, oh my gosh.

0:49.9

Jesus has mad TikTok Riz, y'all.

0:52.2

We are in the dumbest timeline.

1:00.4

Hey, everybody, I'm Dan McClellan.

1:02.5

And I'm Dan Beecher.

1:03.9

And you're listening to the Data Over Dogma podcast, where we increase public access to the academic study of the Bible and religion,

1:12.0

and we combat the spread of misinformation about the same.

1:16.3

How are things today, Dan?

1:18.4

Rocking and rolling.

1:19.8

Just out here making the world a groovy place.

1:25.3

And the construction going on next door to you has settled for the evening.

1:29.1

Settled for the evening, yes.

1:30.5

They've been bedded down for the night.

1:32.8

You and I have been forced to push our recordings to evening, even though you prefer afternoon

1:39.3

because for the foreseeable future there is building.

1:43.3

They're building a spaceship right next to you or something like that

1:46.3

how high is it reaching you've got the the foundation has been poured already yeah i assume okay it's

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