Jesus Listens to Our Doubts: Jamie Kern Lima & Cole Arthur Riley
Jesus Calling: Stories of Faith
Jesus Calling
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🗓️ 15 July 2021
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Summary
Every Christian faces a time in their relationship with Jesus that is frustrating, that’s full of questions, full of doubt, full of wondering if God is even real, if He listens, or if He cares. But time and time again, the Lord has proven that He does hear your every prayer, as Psalm 66:19 reminds us: “God has surely listened and has heard my prayer.” God is also okay with our doubts—He gives us the space we need to figure out for ourselves that He is good, all the time, and He will be with us always. This week’s guests are two dreamers—the founder of IT Cosmetics, the largest luxury makeup company in the country, Jamie Kern Lima, who faced years of trials and God doubt but managed to find a way to keep the faith, and God rewarded her with the breakthrough she’d been longing for. And the creator of Black Liturgies, Cole Arthur Riley, a born skeptic who educated herself on a variety of religions before finding a home in the Christian church who held space for her questions.
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Interview Quotes:
“I think so many of us learn that sometimes God's setbacks are really set ups for what we're supposed to do next.” - Jamie Kern Lima
“Truthfully, there are nights when I’d get these really hard rejections and I’d end up crying myself to sleep. And the one thing that kept going as I would literally pray and be like, ‘God, I feel like you put this dream on my heart and I don't understand why it's not working, am I wrong?’” - Jamie Kern Lima
“All of us have had people reject us or tell us we're not enough or we need to change who we are to fit in or we don't belong. And I think so many times learning to turn down the volume on that and not let it take root in our spirit is so important, because I believe our calling is always stronger than our opposition.” - Jamie Kern Lima
“I would rather show real women all ages, shapes, sizes, skin challenges, skin tones. And if the single mom in Nebraska is going to give me two seconds of her time and she turns on her television, even if she buys nothing, I would rather have her see women who look like her and me calling them beautiful and meaning it, than sell a ton of product and stand for nothing.” - Jamie Kern Lima
“I was really fortunate to have spiritual mentors early on that allowed me to have a lot of agency over my seeking even as they were teaching me things that probably felt really basic to them in many ways.” - Cole Arthur Riley
“Words do have tremendous power, both their presence and their absence. I think our task as Christians is to be really honest and faithful discerners of what any given moment calls for, voice or silence. Both can be oppressive, but both can be beautiful disciplines of rest, hope, and solidarity.” - Cole Arthur Riley
“It can be a real gift for us to join voices with other people across space and across time to say, ‘This is who God is, this is who we are,’ and to tell the story.” - Cole Arthur Riley
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| 0:00.0 | you know sometimes we pray but then we still doubt for many years every time I |
| 0:04.7 | would pray or if I was praying for the health of a friend or whatever it was I |
| 0:07.9 | would literally end my prayer by saying God by the way if you could please |
| 0:13.2 | prove me wrong because I'm doubting that you exist and I'd really appreciate it |
| 0:17.2 | if you prove me wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt in Jesus name in it like I |
| 0:21.0 | literally end my prayer in my head and he did and he has and he continues to do |
| 0:26.5 | welcome to the Jesus Calling podcast every Christian faces a time in their |
| 0:30.9 | relationship with Jesus that can be frustrating full of questions full of |
| 0:35.0 | doubt full of wondering if God is even real if he cares or if he listens but |
| 0:40.4 | time and time again the Lord has proven that he does hear our every prayer as |
| 0:44.4 | Psalm 6619 reminds us God has surely listened and has heard my prayer God is |
| 0:51.5 | also okay with our doubts he gives us the space we need to figure out for ourselves |
| 0:56.2 | that he is good all the time and he will be with us always this week's guests are |
| 1:01.8 | two dreamers the founder of it cosmetics the largest luxury makeup company in |
| 1:06.8 | the country Jamie Kern Lima who faced years of trials and doubt but managed to |
| 1:12.2 | find a way to keep the faith and God rewarded her with the breakthrough she'd |
| 1:16.0 | always been longing for and the creator of black liturgies Cole Arthur Riley a |
| 1:20.8 | born skeptic who educated herself on a variety of religions before finding a |
| 1:25.1 | home in the Christian church who held space for her questions first up let's hear |
| 1:30.3 | Jamie's story my name is Jamie Kern Lima I am probably most well known of the |
| 1:37.0 | founder of it cosmetics company I started in my living room and went through |
| 1:41.7 | three years of crazy rejection eventually built it to what it is now the |
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