you know sometimes we pray but then we still doubt for many years every time I

would pray or if I was praying for the health of a friend or whatever it was I

would literally end my prayer by saying God by the way if you could please

prove me wrong because I'm doubting that you exist and I'd really appreciate it

if you prove me wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt in Jesus name in it like I

literally end my prayer in my head and he did and he has and he continues to do

welcome to the Jesus Calling podcast every Christian faces a time in their

relationship with Jesus that can be frustrating full of questions full of

doubt full of wondering if God is even real if he cares or if he listens but

time and time again the Lord has proven that he does hear our every prayer as

Psalm 6619 reminds us God has surely listened and has heard my prayer God is

also okay with our doubts he gives us the space we need to figure out for ourselves

that he is good all the time and he will be with us always this week's guests are

two dreamers the founder of it cosmetics the largest luxury makeup company in

the country Jamie Kern Lima who faced years of trials and doubt but managed to

find a way to keep the faith and God rewarded her with the breakthrough she'd

always been longing for and the creator of black liturgies Cole Arthur Riley a

born skeptic who educated herself on a variety of religions before finding a

home in the Christian church who held space for her questions first up let's hear

Jamie's story my name is Jamie Kern Lima I am probably most well known of the

founder of it cosmetics company I started in my living room and went through

three years of crazy rejection eventually built it to what it is now the

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