God Is The Healer Of All Wounds: Michael Franzese & Michele Wilbur-Christiansen
Jesus Calling: Stories of Faith
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🗓️ 22 July 2021
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Summary
When we face life experiences that hurt us, that drastically alter the way things go, it can cut deep and cause us significant pain. But as the Bible says in 1 Peter 2:24, “He himself bore our sins in his body on the cross, so that we might live for righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed.” Remember that even in the most daunting of circumstances, Jesus took your wounds as His own so that you may know peace and hope in salvation. Our guests this week have experienced their own personal wounds. Former mafia member Michael Franzese shares about growing up in one of the most notorious crime families, how he himself descended into the darkness, and how ultimately, God healed every element of his past and made him a new person. Michele Wilbur-Christiansen shares the tragic story of her parents’ heartbreaking death, and how her and her siblings found peace in knowing that one day, they will be reunited with them in heaven.
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Michele Wilbur-Christiansen
Capital University in Columbus, Ohio
Interview Quotes:
“The night I went back into prison, they told me I'd never see the street again, I'd never seen my wife and children, they were going to try and indict me on new charges. The government was upset with me because I wouldn't cooperate. They threw me in a hole, I was in solitary, and it was probably the worst night of my life. I thought I was going to lose everything that was dear to me, never see my wife and kids again, I was in my mid thirties. I was still a young guy. So it was a very difficult night. And I was lying on the cot, honestly, I just wanted to close my eyes and not wake up.” - Michael Franzese
“The Bible became my Bible. It became true to me.” - Michael Franzese
“The heroism of my life kind of transferred from my father to Jesus. I was enamored with the personality of Jesus, the character of Jesus as a man. He was a true man's man.” - Michael Franzese
“When times are at their worst for us is when Jesus is the most powerful in our lives.” - Michael Franzese
“I did stray away from God, but never really from family. And then over time, I saw how God was working for me in my life, I became a born-again Christian. So I was able to see how God was working for me, even if I kept Him behind the scenes. And then eventually I came to know Him as more than just a religion, but more as my personal friend and Savior.” - Michele Wilbur-Christiansen
“Knowing our parents were in His presence gave us comfort through our pain. And a reminder that He always has our best interests in mind, even in the worst moments of our lives.” - Michele Wilbur-Christiansen
“This tragedy has caused me to question God at times. I've asked, ‘Why them God, why now?’” - Michele Wilbur-Christiansen
“God continually reminds me that we are to trust Him with all of our heart, not just some or not just the parts that we decide to give Him.” - Michele Wilbur-Christiantiansen
“Take your anger, your sadness, and all your emotions and all your questions to God, He can handle it and still lovingly accepts you with open arms. He will meet you in your mess.” - Michele Wilbur-Christiansen
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| 0:00.0 | I said to myself, if I'm going to believe in the Christian faith and I have to |
| 0:04.6 | believe that Jesus really died for the forgiveness of all sins and that |
| 0:08.2 | includes mine. And so I was able to to make that transformation took a while. |
| 0:13.2 | I mean, you don't just go from mob guy to better guy and think, hey, that's it. |
| 0:17.5 | You get down on your knees, say a prayer and it's all forgiven. It wasn't that easy. |
| 0:21.2 | Welcome to the Jesus Calling podcast. When we face life experiences that hurt |
| 0:28.0 | that drastically alter the way things go, it can cut deep and cause a significant pain. |
| 0:34.0 | But as the Bible says in 1 Peter 2 24, he himself bore our sins on his body, on the cross, |
| 0:41.4 | so that we might live for righteousness. By his wounds, you have been healed. |
| 0:47.2 | Remember that even in the most daunting of circumstances, |
| 0:50.0 | Jesus took your wounds as his own so that you may know peace and hope in salvation. |
| 0:55.9 | Our guests this week have experienced their own personal wounds. |
| 0:59.1 | Former Mafia member Michael Franzis shares about growing up in more than |
| 1:02.7 | most notorious crime families and how he himself descended into the darkness. |
| 1:07.2 | And ultimately, God healed every element of his past and made him a new person. |
| 1:12.2 | Michelle Wilbur Christensen shares the tragic story of her parents heartbreaking death |
| 1:17.2 | and how her and her siblings found peace in knowing that one day they'll be reunited |
| 1:21.9 | with them in heaven. Let's get started with Michael's story. |
| 1:27.6 | My name is Michael Franzis and at one time in my life, I was a soldier at Coppergain |
| 1:33.0 | in the Colombo Crime family, one of the five New York, |
| 1:35.8 | Kosenhorstrom, Mafia families. |
| 1:40.8 | I had a different childhood than most people out there. My dad was a very high profile figure |
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