Hello and welcome to the political orphanage in a media hellscape where all politics is a battlefield you have found the one

podcast that would rather be a playground I'm your host Andrew Heaton and I'm glad you're back.

Today we're going to climb into the minds of one of the most powerful groups in the American

electorate, Evangelicals.

My guest Ben Howe is himself an evangelical, and the author of The Immoral Majority,

Why Evangelicals Chose Political Power over Christian Values. If you've ever wondered why some of the stotchest

Christian snake handlers in the country paradoxically love a serial flanver who doesn't read the Bible or handle snakes.

We'll explain that. In fact, we're going to go a step further and explore a fascinating phenomenon.

Donald Trump prophecies.

Oh, did you not know about those?

I didn't.

But there are literally prophecies

within sections of the evangelical movement

which consecrate Donald Trump as a sacred

vessel of the divine plan. We go into all of that and we go into what a Christian

theocracy would look like, character in public office. Cyrus the Great, we're going

into history 2,000 years old, but also the last socialist rebellion in American history.

I'm even going to talk about Buddhism briefly. Guys, this is a fun interview with one caveat.

Ben and I recorded this in Los Angeles and we did it in a mostly unoccupied

hotel dining room, which at the time I thought would be kind of fun for everybody.

There'd be some ambient noise and you the listener would feel like you're sitting right there

next to us and that well-lit cheerful space just kicking back at the

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