From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

Welcome to the treatment. I'm Elvis Mitchell. There probably have many actors who can say they've worked with, let's see, Herbert Ross,

actually Richard Benjamin, Woody Allen a couple of times, and Darya Argento, and Luca Guadano.

In fact, the idea of like an actress who can say that she's basically worked with with filmmakers whose films that she's done with them, including Brian De Palma, have been about things not being what they seem.

And she's now the host of a podcast about things not being what they seem called Veneca.

My guest, of course, is Jessica Harper.

She's in the original Susperia and the remake.

First of all, thanks so much for being here.

Oh, thank you for having me all of us.

This is thrilling to me.

But again, this idea of things not being what they seem that really hit me listening to the first three episodes of your podcast.

Because, actually, we have something in common.

We're both from large families, and we both have a twin.

I have a twin sister.

Oh, really?

I didn't know that.

That's great.

And your family life, you talk about in Oneka, is, it sounds like an ideal.

You know, these well-educated parents, you were raised in the suburb of a father who had a very glamorous profession

who had just come out of World War II as a decorated hero. I mean, it sounds like an

incredible life, and you peel back those covers in the show, don't you? Yeah. Well, I think

it's like a lot of families. Things often look pretty good and bouncing along on the surface. And in this case,

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