The band, which we get into that story, just kind of swept me off my feet. Yeah. And it turned into what it did. And even that, I kind of fought against up until like 30 minutes ago. You know what I mean? Like, it becomes something that's almost like nostalgic. Everybody's like, you know, drooling for 2016 right now. And I'm like... That's so funny to be. I know. it's funny to me too don't worry about how it falls

apart or falls together I want to ask you about that too sure if I can yeah go ahead so when you

first shaved your head are you still chronically online yeah social media and auto tune are my favorite

drug but um uh jesse welcome thank you for being on my show thanks for having me dude so um my favorite drug.

Jesse, welcome.

Thank you for being on my show.

Thanks for having me, dude.

So I love to get a snapshot because growing up in Chicago, we have an idealized concept of California life.

Of course, we're different generations.

But growing up in the 70s like I did, you know, the California dream, whether it was Disneyland or, you know, it seems so idyllic.

And obviously a lot of what the music business propagates into entertainment business is the idea that California is the American lifestyle.

So growing up here, give me the reality

of your circumstance. Yeah, I mean, I think the older I get, the more I see how just

idealistic it really was. You know, once you like get out and you experience other places.

Yeah, middle America is very sobering. Yeah, well, and every time I fly back, you, like, get out and you experience other places. Yeah, middle America is very sobering.

Yeah, well, and every time I fly back, I'm like, whew, I like this place.

Yeah, yeah. Makes me appreciate it more. Well, we felt the same way when we would fly into Los Angeles. See, that's what's always been wild to me, because I would have, like, you know, kids in my neighborhood, their cousin would come visit from wherever.

And they'd be like, we don't want to leave. And I'd be thinking to myself, wherever I go, I always want to leave and come back here. But now I kind of get it. Yeah. But also give me, sorry. They also give me the, like, the musical environment, the cultural environment so I can get like a snapshot of this. show. I mean, okay, so I grew up in a like a smaller suburban area about an hour north

outside of L.A., 45 minutes north of L.A. called Newbury Park. And, you know, it's an upper

middle class community, pretty, pretty safe, very safe.

A lot of open space, a lot of parks, you know, skateboarding.

Yeah.

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