I was confident after that. I got cocky. I got cocky. I was confident. First time I ever laid eyes on you, the memory I have is the shoulders, kind of thrown back. And it's just the scoffiness. I throw out 10,000 tangents so no one can get to me. Sure. Well, I've chased you down many rivers. I know, Billy. This is terrifying. My two memories of watching you play at the hour on that night was the cool guitar stuff happening, and then this just never ending scream. And what is the source of this? You wouldn't give me money for smokes. You're still mad. I am. Courtney, thank you for being on my podcast. Anytime, Billy Gorgon. I love it. Okay, well, it's going to be a hundred-part series. I know. So this is part one and two. I know. Okay, let's start here. Okay. I'm going to jump around a little bit, which I sure doesn't surprise you. No, I do that too. Let's talk a little bit about Mom and Dad. Oh wow. Wow. I just my blood just ran cold. Oh my God, evolved things. Porgon. Okay. Dad was an interesting guy in the grateful dad world. Yeah. And then in the Irish holy grail world and in the LSD giving LSD to his child at the hate asher world. You know, he's got a hero's journey as lame as he was. Oh, in the Steve Jobs work in an apple before anyone world and then getting fired from Apple because was neoclective and getting fired. He would attract like Peter Albin from the big brother, you know, Peter Albin, you do too.

It's like a very easy...

Is that in the Holy Company?

Yeah, he was that guy.

Okay.

He was that guy.

I don't think he's the guy that went to Texas. You know this stuff. You're like, hey, he didn't go to Texas and get Janice back like he was in big brother. Okay. Am I wrong? I'm not a, I'm not a, you were just doing forensic,

I like your friends.

I'm in the snob crowd that likes Janice

without the holding company.

Me too, I thought they were really bad band.

That's so something there. You were just doing forensic, I'm in the snob crowd that likes Janice without the holding company.

Me too. I thought they were a really bad band.

So something there. Well, yeah, the recording in Chicago, you would know about that. Yeah. It's a crap recording, honestly. It's hard to get through it. I understand. It's still gold. Peter Albin, if I'm not correct, my father... He was, have you heard Janice Chaplin's, it's very raw.

Her recordings early on, like 64 with Yarma from... There's one. From the airplane. They're called the typewriter tapes because somebody's typing while they're singing. I heard it's really raw. It's her singing, it's her singing early blues with Yarma playing playing guitar. I've heard of Seffing from Texas.

It's on Spotify, you can find it.

Yeah. No, no, this is when she's in San Francisco and she's like 18 years old. Yeah, because she went there twice. And people think the hate was this really great place. My memory of the hate, Aspery, other than my father giving me asked it for about three to six until my mother noticed and he got his custody taken away, is that it was dank and dirty and awful and people weren't

heroin.

And so the whole and or early math, right? So the whole summer of love thing, they just used the same footage over and over like two days and go to get park. It not kidding. Like it's the apathyosis they had it. They actually got an eye tape. The whole film or thing was dark.

And the janitor thing that tracks is that she ended up on on smack. She ended up in sex work. Tracks for me. I get it. And now you go back to Texas twice. Well, it is a gold brush town. Von Dyke? Absolutely. reforms it never leaves their delay no you're right you're right like look at

Chicago you're right No, you're right. You're right.

Like, look at Chicago.

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