Hey everybody welcome back to another edition another episode of the journal

podcast this is Kevin Rose thanks for joining me we have a great guest for today's

show but before we get into that I want to back up and tell you a little bit about

the journal the journal is my monthly newsletter it goes out once a month to

gosh right around 60,000 or so people you You can subscribe at

W.W. dot the journal dot email sign up there and you'll make sure to get the

newsletter every month. I don't spam you, I don't send a bunch of extra

crap to your inbox.

I value your inbox and your time,

and so I just send one email a month.

The email, the tagline for the email

is called a newsletter for the curious. And that's what I I like to do here on the podcast I'd like to have someone on

That is just an expert in their field that can talk about something that we typically

Don't run into an everyday life.

So I've had some interesting scientists on the show, entrepreneurs, and in this case, the host of another

podcast that I absolutely love called Smart Drug Smarts. My guest today

is Jesse Lawler. Jesse is the host and is a body hacker, kind of a brain hacker if you will.

So he's a programmer by training,

but has stumbled into this field

where he has found a whole slew of other like-minded folks that come on his podcast and talk about certain compounds,

certain supplements that you can take to really enhance your performance and enhance your brain.

So he has had a whole slew of different guests on his show talking about everything from micro-dosing

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