I was able to travel to a few

in Pretoria, South Africa, lived in Johannesburg and Durbin as well.

I was able to travel to a few countries growing up within Africa and around the world.

Went to the US when I was, I don't know,

tenish or something like that.

And I read a lot of comics and books and stuff

and things on technology.

And it always seemed like when there's cool technology or things happening

it was kind of in the United States.

So my goal as a kid was to try to get to get to America basically.

What were your favorite comics?

Well, I read every comic in the store.

And I like obviously the Batman, Superman,

I mean the Green Lantern, Iron Man.

Gotta not say Iron Man first because people think,

I did think that was a pretty cool one.

But I read everything, like Dr Strange, you know,

just, if there was a comic on the rack I read it.

Awesome. Yeah. And when did you decide to get into computers and technology?

Did you start coding or was it just a lot of construction going on? Can you still hear okay?

Okay, okay. So did you start coding? Yeah, so when I was about 10 years old I was I went into a store in South Africa and saw a

Commodore Vic 20 and I guess maybe I was nine years old I don't know some

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