Well done. You've sorted through the embarrassment of riches that is the modern podcast landscape

and found me Rob Briden on my podcast. In this series of Briden and I talk to among

others Harry Hill, Ben Elton, Charlotte Church, Steve Cougan and Dame Harriet Walter.

And that's just a few. We tend to chat for about 45 minutes to an hour never longer.

It's terrific conversation, reminiscent where appropriate and exchange of anecdotes.

So do join me Rob Briden wherever you get your podcasts.

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Fair warning guys, this is an emotional episode.

Harry me Richmond is my guest. He lost his daughter in the shooting in Newtown, Connecticut

in 2012. The mask are there. I am recording this. We record the introductions to each podcast

a couple days before we post them usually and recording this on a day after get another

mass shooting in America this time at a newspaper in Maryland at this point five journalists

killed. And it's easy to kind of get numbed to these headlines. But there is a real human

cost and you're going to hear from a dad today and a meditator who had a pre-existing

meditation habit that he's resuscitated during during the course of his recovery. And

I just want to tell you that this is an incredible story. They're moving and uplifting parts

of it and also very practical take away. So a great episode much more from Jeremy coming

up. But first let's let's lighten things for just a minute and then take some phone

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