What we're trying to point out to people, there's often this tension, profit or purpose,

right, or concessionary on impact investing. And we're trying to say, if you adopt a tri-sector

model, these things are synchronous and synergistic. And that's the really interesting thing about it.

And then what's really interesting, Karina, is if you can make them synergistic,

then this can spread, right? There could be hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of organizations

across the world to think this way. And then we can start to have this sort of change that we all

want to see at scale happen much, much, much more quickly.

Welcome to Care More Be Better, a podcast for people like you who care about the social

impact of conscious companies and everyday heroes.

Hear inspiring stories from those who put people in planet before profit and personal gain.

You'll learn how you can make a difference. Vote with your dollars and get

involved today. Here's your host, Karina Belizzi. Hello, fellow do get educators and friends. I'm

your host, Karina Belizzi, an activist who is passionate about building a better, more sustainable

future for all of us. Every week,

I invite you to care a little more so that together we can build that better, brighter future.

If you haven't already, please subscribe, rate, and review this show wherever you listen,

so you're sure to discover new episodes as soon as they drop. Have you ever wondered why we as a country are so committed

to endless growth, to methods of business building that are extractive, focused on incremental

profits and optimized results, all while whittling down the little guy and capturing more wealth for the top 1%.

In order to escape that cycle, we are going to have to do a little work, hard work, to democratize access to things like funding,

to normalize some wages, to reduce pay gaps, and a whole lot more.

To unravel this story, I am joined today by an amazing

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